Should I have folded pre? Stars 1/4mill

[chezzboy]

Just looking for some thoughts on the following hand, bear in mind I'm a recreational (aka brain doing) player, is this an easy fold pre?

Is my post-flop line any good? My thinking was it was value to call pre, on the flop I'm trying to get them in.

PokerStars Game #45156611480: Tournament #314010003, $10+$1 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (125/250) - 2010/06/06 21:41:54 WET [2010/06/06 16:41:54 ET]
Table '314010003 520' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: islonik (2215 in chips)
Seat 2: baeks22 (5705 in chips)
Seat 3: DemonClean8 (2370 in chips)
Seat 4: JokersGrind (8885 in chips)
Seat 5: Jonabus (6120 in chips)
Seat 6: jahrasta387 (3800 in chips)
Seat 7: WhiskeyR (6655 in chips)
Seat 8: chezzboy1 (4365 in chips)
Seat 9: FeldesTo (2445 in chips)
islonik: posts the ante 25
baeks22: posts the ante 25
DemonClean8: posts the ante 25
JokersGrind: posts the ante 25
Jonabus: posts the ante 25
jahrasta387: posts the ante 25
WhiskeyR: posts the ante 25
chezzboy1: posts the ante 25
FeldesTo: posts the ante 25
WhiskeyR: posts small blind 125
chezzboy1: posts big blind 250
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to chezzboy1 [ ]
FeldesTo: folds
islonik: folds
baeks22: folds
DemonClean8: folds
JokersGrind: raises 500 to 750
Jonabus: folds
jahrasta387: calls 750
WhiskeyR: folds
chezzboy1: calls 500
*** FLOP *** [ ]
chezzboy1: checks
JokersGrind: bets 1500
jahrasta387: folds
chezzboy1: raises 2090 to 3590 and is all-in
JokersGrind: calls 2090
*** TURN *** [ ] []
*** RIVER *** [ ] []
*** SHOW DOWN ***
chezzboy1: shows [ ] (a pair of Queens)
JokersGrind: shows [ ] (three of a kind, Jacks)
JokersGrind collected 9780 from pot
chezzboy1 finished the tournament in 15452nd place
pegueno is connected
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 9780 | Rake 0
Board [ ]
Seat 1: islonik folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: baeks22 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: DemonClean8 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: JokersGrind showed [ ] and won (9780) with three of a kind, Jacks
Seat 5: Jonabus folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: jahrasta387 (button) folded on the Flop
Seat 7: WhiskeyR (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: chezzboy1 (big blind) showed [ ] and lost with a pair of Queens
Seat 9: FeldesTo folded before Flop (didn't bet)

[ChipRich]

without any shadow of a doubt, yes.

[Meister]

obv

[GreekStein]

without any shadow of a doubt, yes.

[Ironside]

pre fold

as you called lead the flop

[GreekStein]

as you called lead the flop

Norrr

[Ironside]

as you called lead the flop

Norrr

you dont lead top pair weak kicker?

they is no way your going to keep the pot small

so might aswell tid there and then or get all the chips in as you hit your card

cant see the point in calling pre if your going to fold the flop

and dont think your hand is strong enough to check raise with

as i said i would call pre but you have to lead

i lead alot of hands when i missed or hit (normally deeper granted)

i used to check raise every big flop for me but find i get more action leading

as they expect me to check raise when i hit a set or a flush or a straight etc etc

[GreekStein]

as you called lead the flop

Norrr

you dont lead top pair weak kicker?

they is no way your going to keep the pot small

so might aswell tid there and then or get all the chips in as you hit your card

cant see the point in calling pre if your going to fold the flop

and dont think your hand is strong enough to check raise with

as i said i would call pre but you have to lead

i lead alot of hands when i missed or hit (normally deeper granted)

i used to check raise every big flop for me but find i get more action leading

as they expect me to check raise when i hit a set or a flush or a straight etc etc

we want the chips in here if we're calling off 20% of our stack pre with Q10o/s so don't risk shutting anyone out from making a c-bet/bluff etc when we want the money in.

Pre is the problem here, post is fine.

[Cf]

Easiest preflop fold ever. We can't be putting in 1/8th of our stack in pre with QTo.

[Girgy85]

Easiest preflop fold ever. We can't be putting in 1/8th of our stack in pre with QTo.

^^ THIS ^^

[chezzboy]

I'd say thats pretty conclusive. Thanks lads I'll sigh fold next time 

[MC]

I'd say thats pretty conclusive. Thanks lads I'll sigh fold next time  

lol, fistpump fold imo

[byronkincaid]

we are not pushing pre cuz jahrasta387 has flatted with lowish chips? if he has a bigger stack good to push?