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« on: June 14, 2010, 12:46:54 PM »

sb vs bb, deep

opponent is 24/19 and rather straightforward.

6-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 2: co ($944.50 in chips)
Seat 3: btn ($2330.15 in chips)
Seat 4: hero ($799.80 in chips)
Seat 5: villain ($1390.40 in chips)
Seat 6: utg ($1023.60 in chips)
hero: posts small blind $2
villain: posts big blind $4
co: posts the ante $0.80
btn: posts the ante $0.80
hero: posts the ante $0.80
villain: posts the ante $0.80
utg: posts the ante $0.80

*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to hero [ ]
3 folds
hero: raises $8 to $12
villain: raises $30 to $42
hero: calls $30

*** FLOP *** [ ]
hero: checks
villain: bets $64
hero: calls $64

*** TURN *** [ ] []
hero: checks
villain: bets $166
hero: ??
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« Reply #1 on: June 14, 2010, 12:50:22 PM »

calllllllllllllllll.
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« Reply #2 on: June 14, 2010, 12:52:28 PM »

Call again?

Our hand is too strong to fold, but by raising we valuetown ourselves. This is assuming we don't have some funky history where he will go mad with 1 pair.
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« Reply #3 on: June 14, 2010, 02:08:31 PM »

if calling, there's psb left on river.
and i assume it's to check call or check fold river.
so how much are you check calling when he bets? eff stack left is about $528
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« Reply #4 on: June 14, 2010, 03:39:41 PM »

Villain's bet sizing looks perfect to get the lot in on the end.

Looks like a set up to me.

You're probably behind.

Call.
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« Reply #5 on: June 14, 2010, 04:17:12 PM »

and i assume it's to check call or check fold river.

Check calling river. Just fyl when the river rolls off a 10/J/Q.
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« Reply #6 on: June 14, 2010, 11:28:04 PM »

yeah if the river rolls off a queen i puke.

call and call again tho
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« Reply #7 on: June 15, 2010, 02:37:08 AM »

thoughts on flatting turn and leading blank rivers?
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« Reply #8 on: June 15, 2010, 09:44:37 AM »

From my experience's of playing 6max if he fires the river I'd say we're ahead <10% of the time.Definitely don't lead the river our hand isn't strong enough and we should be trying to get to showdown.Not saying I would fold because I'm tez at cash but I don't think we beat anything in his range.
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« Reply #9 on: June 15, 2010, 01:50:11 PM »

if we call pre it seems absurd to fold now.
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« Reply #10 on: June 15, 2010, 02:29:07 PM »

Not sure why everyone thinks we're so far behind. The guy is decently aggressive at 24/19, he can easily be 3betting and firing two with AQ AJ AT. My preferred line is to call and lead the river pretty small, say 40% of the pot. If he's as straightforward as you say he is we can pretty much eliminate the possibility of being bluff shoved on the river.

I really don't like check calling here since he's probably going to fire big both with his semibluffs, better aces up and sets. Just puts us in a really nasty spot where we're pretty sure he's not bluffing but could well be overplaying an Ax hand that we beat.
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« Reply #11 on: June 15, 2010, 05:30:28 PM »

Not sure why everyone thinks we're so far behind. The guy is decently aggressive at 24/19, he can easily be 3betting and firing two with AQ AJ AT. My preferred line is to call and lead the river pretty small, say 40% of the pot. If he's as straightforward as you say he is we can pretty much eliminate the possibility of being bluff shoved on the river.

I really don't like check calling here since he's probably going to fire big both with his semibluffs, better aces up and sets. Just puts us in a really nasty spot where we're pretty sure he's not bluffing but could well be overplaying an Ax hand that we beat.

my thoughts too.
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« Reply #12 on: June 15, 2010, 06:11:36 PM »

thinking about that and i quite like that line, esp if the flush hits on the river
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