Theft of Chips from the pot at Gala Casino Stockport

[lazaroonie]

the cops are clueless. a few years back when the raided the cincinnatti club in glasgow they bagged up all the tournament chips as evidence and wrote down the actual cash values beside them. i reckon they must have thought we were all high rollers and there was about 50 grand in cash on each table....

[suzanne]

That's right Laz, and it was our very own RioRodent who was the rightful owner of the pot.

I don't think the 'scoop-and-run' merchant in that case was stopped until he left the casino and tried to drive off in his car whilst well above the legal limit.

Not sure what happened with the chips, or if the bloke actually cashed them in or not.

They stopped him in the car park and took the chips back but iirc they phoned the police informing what had happened and that he was trying to drive away drunk and they then stalled him with the intention of letting the police arrest him when he drove away. Which suggests he couldnt be arrested for what he did inside the casino. Dont know what happened after that.

Ive got him as a facebook buddy and he spams an online betting site regular. Not been tempted to signed up though ;-)

[lowstakesgrinderuk]

I can honestly say that I had never seen anything like it.  The Dealer was in total shock and just froze.  Adam the duty manager said, that this has never occurred in a poker game during his tenure, the funny thing was the casino just let them walk out with the chips after they were alerted of the issue.  At first he was very hesitant to make good the my loss but as soon as i mentioned the Gambling Commission and the police he had a change of heart, which been fair to him - he just did not know how to deal with the situation, so i dont hold this against him. 

I can only describe the father and son, as chav types with skinheads.

[Claw75]

cant get your head around it ? dont you remember the walsall apat a few years back....

lol, that was funny

trying to remember the details of this one...was it not an omaha cash game and the guy had 'acidentally' been dealt 5 cards, which he was unsuccessfully trying to represent as 4 cards at the showdown only to get caught and  proceed to scoop up the pot and bolt for the door ?

pretty sure that guy just took his own chips back out of the pot, which would have been easy enough to do quickly if they were still stacked right in front of him.  the casino called the police.  I think he then came back in and the situation was sorted, and then got nicked when he dried to drive away over the limit.

[RioRodent]

cant get your head around it ? dont you remember the walsall apat a few years back....

lol, that was funny

trying to remember the details of this one...was it not an omaha cash game and the guy had 'acidentally' been dealt 5 cards, which he was unsuccessfully trying to represent as 4 cards at the showdown only to get caught and  proceed to scoop up the pot and bolt for the door ?

pretty sure that guy just took his own chips back out of the pot, which would have been easy enough to do quickly if they were still stacked right in front of him.  the casino called the police.  I think he then came back in and the situation was sorted, and then got nicked when he dried to drive away over the limit.

Correct

[Bongo]

See you could understand that if someone took their own chips back the police would find it difficult because gambling debts are unenforceable (ianal) and the chips weren't someone else's yet (I doubt the pot is a legal entity with ownership rights), but when they took other people's chips from the pot then it sounds like a different matter to me.

[lowstakesgrinderuk]

See you could understand that if someone took their own chips back the police would find it difficult because gambling debts are unenforceable (ianal) and the chips weren't someone else's yet (I doubt the pot is a legal entity with ownership rights), but when they took other people's chips from the pot then it sounds like a different matter to me.

Its all a bit confusing, Common sense would dicate that the pot is either the property of the casino until it is awarded to the winning player, or its held on trust by the casino for the winning player, it gets complicated i.e. if its the property of the casino, then they are in effect refusing to pay a winning bet, if its held on trust for the winning player then legally they are not under an obligation to pay the winning hand or so i think ?

[StuartHopkin]

Ill find out exactly next weekend.

Someone remind me if I dont post the answer.

[Skippy]

See you could understand that if someone took their own chips back the police would find it difficult because gambling debts are unenforceable (ianal)

Not any more, the law changed a few years ago.