Emergency Budget 2010

[celtic]

When Stacey had Reece she was young, but got pregnant, her so called long term boyfriend and Stacey both had decentish jobs, unfortunately he decided enough was enough and she had to stand on her own 2 feet. She could not possibly hold a job down with Reece permanently in hospital during early life, plus for the first few yrs he was in more than out. What employer would employ Stacey Matt? She now does charitable work as well as college but NO she can not support herself or Reece so SPONGES of us working folk. I think thats how you generalise folk right? No she doesn't like it and is trying to better herself but finds it hard right now.

I don't think Stacey is a good example of what Matt was talking about though Mo, He was talking more about the people that get pregnant intentionally (of which there are a lot of) just so they can abuse the benefits/housing system.

[The_nun]

When Stacey had Reece she was young, but got pregnant, her so called long term boyfriend and Stacey both had decentish jobs, unfortunately he decided enough was enough and she had to stand on her own 2 feet. She could not possibly hold a job down with Reece permanently in hospital during early life, plus for the first few yrs he was in more than out. What employer would employ Stacey Matt? She now does charitable work as well as college but NO she can not support herself or Reece so SPONGES of us working folk. I think thats how you generalise folk right? No she doesn't like it and is trying to better herself but finds it hard right now.

I don't think Stacey is a good example of what Matt was talking about though Mo, He was talking more about the people that get pregnant intentionally (of which there are a lot of) just so they can abuse the benefits/housing system.

Fair enough.

[The_nun]

When Stacey had Reece she was young, but got pregnant, her so called long term boyfriend and Stacey both had decentish jobs, unfortunately he decided enough was enough and she had to stand on her own 2 feet. She could not possibly hold a job down with Reece permanently in hospital during early life, plus for the first few yrs he was in more than out. What employer would employ Stacey Matt? She now does charitable work as well as college but NO she can not support herself or Reece so SPONGES of us working folk. I think thats how you generalise folk right? No she doesn't like it and is trying to better herself but finds it hard right now.

I don't think Stacey is a good example of what Matt was talking about though Mo, He was talking more about the people that get pregnant intentionally (of which there are a lot of) just so they can abuse the benefits/housing system.

Although even Stacey can not get her hands on a house, she even had to pay towards her private rental out of there allowances.

[celtic]

When Stacey had Reece she was young, but got pregnant, her so called long term boyfriend and Stacey both had decentish jobs, unfortunately he decided enough was enough and she had to stand on her own 2 feet. She could not possibly hold a job down with Reece permanently in hospital during early life, plus for the first few yrs he was in more than out. What employer would employ Stacey Matt? She now does charitable work as well as college but NO she can not support herself or Reece so SPONGES of us working folk. I think thats how you generalise folk right? No she doesn't like it and is trying to better herself but finds it hard right now.

I don't think Stacey is a good example of what Matt was talking about though Mo, He was talking more about the people that get pregnant intentionally (of which there are a lot of) just so they can abuse the benefits/housing system.

Although even Stacey can not get her hands on a house, she even had to pay towards her private rental out of there allowances.

Yeah, the benefit system is all wrong, i couldn't get any help when i missed work for long peiods of time last year, whilst others are on perma benefits for no real reason....

[Geo the Sarge]

2 bits I can't fully understand (not neccesarily both budget points)

1. Setting a levy against the "bigger" banks, is this just the top banks? why not all. Ohh wait a minute, we (the taxpayer) own a huge portion of these banks, so in effect are we not being "taxed" even more, less returns/dividends etc. to allow the taxpayer to recover what they put in.

2. There's talk of forcing the bigger banks to be split up, couple of points on this

a. They intend to disband the FSA and put regulating into the hands of the Bank of England
b. It is widely known that the last government, supported by The Bank of England put pressure on Lloyds to takeover HBOS and make it the biggest banking group in the UK. How on earth can the Bank of England now support breaking this up again? If it was considered to  have been the incorrect thing to do in the first place, how can they have confidence in the Bank of England as regulators?

Not an anti English thing btw and I am employed within Lloyds, although a mere pensions administrator.

Thoughts?

Geo

[EvilPie]

When Stacey had Reece she was young, but got pregnant, her so called long term boyfriend and Stacey both had decentish jobs, unfortunately he decided enough was enough and she had to stand on her own 2 feet. She could not possibly hold a job down with Reece permanently in hospital during early life, plus for the first few yrs he was in more than out. What employer would employ Stacey Matt? She now does charitable work as well as college but NO she can not support herself or Reece so SPONGES of us working folk. I think thats how you generalise folk right? No she doesn't like it and is trying to better herself but finds it hard right now.

I don't think Stacey is a good example of what Matt was talking about though Mo, He was talking more about the people that get pregnant intentionally (of which there are a lot of) just so they can abuse the benefits/housing system.

Although even Stacey can not get her hands on a house, she even had to pay towards her private rental out of there allowances.

This is the problem with the system Mo.

Someone like Stacey who by what you are saying is genuinely deserving of help doesn't get what she needs because the pond scum to which I originally refer suck the life out of the system.

Deserving cases are swept to one side whilst the low lifes just keep spewing out more kids who themselves will probably turn out to be low lifes and add further to an ever spiralling problem.

The amount of money thrown at these people is shocking. My sister is a single mother and she claims everything that she is legally entitled to. She will openly admit that it's "hardly worth going to work". If she wasn't in a well paid job she would be worse off working. She earns good money and yet still they throw money at her. Even now she only actually gets paid for about 1 day at work. If she quit the extra benefits she would get would equate to 4 days earnings anyway! WTF is that all about!?!?!?

You get some fat, lazy, bone idle slob who cba to work anyway and what are they going to do? It's obvious. Having a kid or 5 is the perfect answer to prevent ever having to work again.

[Scottish Dave]

Not really read much onto the budget, and as is usually the case, you can just ask Blonde instead of looking into it yourself!!?

My story is:

I'm 29, work as an Engineer for Network Rail, earn between £45,000-£50,000 per year (£47,789 last year)

Missus(Janet) is 27, worked as a carer for the elderly, earned terrible wages compared to the job she did, £6,000 per year (part time 16hr per week)

We have a 4 year old, and 8 months ago we had twin girls, so 3 kids total.

We currently get £270 per month from child benefit's/child tax credits.

Will this change for us? We have decided that Janet will give up work till the kids go to school. So the benefits would help I suppose, but with my wage we would really struggle without it.

Just curious to know?

[Woodsey]

Not really read much onto the budget, and as is usually the case, you can just ask Blonde instead of looking into it yourself!!?

My story is:

I'm 29, work as an Engineer for Network Rail, earn between £45,000-£50,000 per year (£47,789 last year)

Missus(Janet) is 27, worked as a carer for the elderly, earned terrible wages compared to the job she did, £6,000 per year (part time 16hr per week)

We have a 4 year old, and 8 months ago we had twin girls, so 3 kids total.

We currently get £270 per month from child benefit's/child tax credits.

Will this change for us? We have decided that Janet will give up work till the kids go to school. So the benefits would help I suppose, but with my wage we would really struggle without it.

Just curious to know?

Yep, you will deffo lose some child tax credit, any family earning over 40k will. Dunno how much though

[Woodsey]

This might help you out

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Interactive-Graphics/budgetcalculator

[Scottish Dave]

Not really read much onto the budget, and as is usually the case, you can just ask Blonde instead of looking into it yourself!!?

My story is:

I'm 29, work as an Engineer for Network Rail, earn between £45,000-£50,000 per year (£47,789 last year)

Missus(Janet) is 27, worked as a carer for the elderly, earned terrible wages compared to the job she did, £6,000 per year (part time 16hr per week)

We have a 4 year old, and 8 months ago we had twin girls, so 3 kids total.

We currently get £270 per month from child benefit's/child tax credits.

Will this change for us? We have decided that Janet will give up work till the kids go to school. So the benefits would help I suppose, but with my wage we wouldn't really struggle without it.

Just curious to know?

incase anyone thinks im a sponger, i mistyped the statement above, i meant to say 'With my wage i WOULDN'T really struggle without it'

but thanks for that budget calculator mate, it says ill lose the child tax credits completely, but that was only £80 p/m anyway, so whatever.

still get £190 p/m from the benefit's, which will no doubt go towards my beer fund!! ;-)


any contradictions in the post above??

[thetank]

lol, I read your first post about struggling without it and was like, gtfo Dave, your gambling problem can't be that bad.