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« on: July 15, 2010, 10:09:14 PM »

sng - no reads obv - other than i have barely played a hand



PokerStars Game #46815290153: Tournament #291995408, $6.00+$0.50 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2010/07/15 20:43:24 UTC [2010/07/15 16:43:24 ET]
Table '291995408 1' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: Warningstein (1860 in chips)
Seat 3: laTerxd (3855 in chips)
Seat 5: Cactusmuffin (1260 in chips)
Seat 6: depowly (1135 in chips)
Seat 8: outragous76 (2137 in chips)
Seat 9: KKmurdock_hd (3253 in chips)
Cactusmuffin: posts small blind 100
depowly: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to outragous76 [ ]
outragous76: raises 300 to 500
KKmurdock_hd: raises 2753 to 3253 and is all-in
Warningstein: folds
laTerxd: folds
Cactusmuffin: calls 1160 and is all-in
depowly: folds
outragous76: >?
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« Reply #1 on: July 15, 2010, 10:21:22 PM »

sick level

fold obv
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« Reply #2 on: July 15, 2010, 10:28:44 PM »

Would just ship it in pre with your stack, now I would call.

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« Reply #3 on: July 15, 2010, 10:29:44 PM »

cant see me folding but would have jammed pre
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« Reply #4 on: July 15, 2010, 10:31:26 PM »

no need to reply jam pre  -  i know - but i didnt and still have a stack with FE if i let it go........................ so I?
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« Reply #5 on: July 15, 2010, 10:34:33 PM »

Would just ship it in pre with your stack, now I would call.


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« Reply #6 on: July 15, 2010, 10:47:21 PM »

You call and its not at all close. 6 handed with a 10BB stack in a $6 SNG, I aint folding jacks.

Theres still a side pot too remember if the shorty has you crushed
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« Reply #7 on: July 15, 2010, 11:25:49 PM »

sng - no reads obv - other than i have barely played a hand



PokerStars Game #46815290153: Tournament #291995408, $6.00+$0.50 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2010/07/15 20:43:24 UTC [2010/07/15 16:43:24 ET]
Table '291995408 1' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: Warningstein (1860 in chips)
Seat 3: laTerxd (3855 in chips)
Seat 5: Cactusmuffin (1260 in chips)
Seat 6: depowly (1135 in chips)
Seat 8: outragous76 (2137 in chips)
Seat 9: KKmurdock_hd (3253 in chips)
Cactusmuffin: posts small blind 100
depowly: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to outragous76 [ ]
outragous76: raises 300 to 500
KKmurdock_hd: raises 2753 to 3253 and is all-in
Warningstein: folds
laTerxd: folds
Cactusmuffin: calls 1160 and is all-in
depowly: folds
outragous76: >?

Fold. The clue is in his name.
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« Reply #8 on: July 16, 2010, 07:43:34 AM »

Call, hit a set and be done with it.

The sidepot makes me call here more than anything.
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« Reply #9 on: July 17, 2010, 10:11:28 PM »

Must shove pre

Call now
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« Reply #10 on: July 20, 2010, 11:33:16 AM »

Call, hit a set and be done with it.

The sidepot makes me call here more than anything.

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« Reply #11 on: July 20, 2010, 11:47:52 AM »

in the interest of a slightly more helpful response than last time, i crunched some figurrrrrres. (gd old maths Smiley )

so ur calling 1737 to win 3597 which is pretty much bang on 2-1 so you need roughly 30% equity vs both ranges (assuming they both have the same chips.)
vs opponent 1 who is shoving 15bbs lets assume this as his range
55+,A2s+,KJs+,QJs,J9s+,T9s,98s,87s,ATo+,KJo+  (this is educated guess work but roughly top 15/16% of hands)
and villian #2 will be much wider as he only has 6bigs plus the chance that you fold creates some overlay for him so lets assume his range as
22+,A2s+,K6s+,Q9s+,J8s+,T8s+,97s+,86s+,76s,65s,54s,A5o+,KJo+,QJo,JTo,T9o

  75,868,492,392  games   122.333 secs   620,180,101  games/sec

Board:
Dead: 

   equity    win    tie          pots won    pots tied   
Hand 0:    48.373%     47.89%    00.48%       36336898592    363284498.67   { JcJd }
Hand 1:    28.346%     27.52%    00.82%       20881589168    623875997.67   { 55+, A2s+, KJs+, QJs, J9s+, T9s, 98s, 87s, ATo+, KJo+ }
Hand 2:    23.281%     22.55%    00.73%       17111385198    551458937.67   { 22+, A2s+, K6s+, Q9s+, J8s+, T8s+, 97s+, 86s+, 76s, 65s, 54s, A5o+, KJo+, QJo, JTo, T9o }

now il redily admit not being a SNG fish, but even if you tighten up both guys ranges ul still easy have enough equity to call...obv its high varience but you wont get many better spots in a SNG to have loads of chips IMO

As has been mentioned the side pot of 1850ish vs villain #1 where you have

316,776,240  games     0.372 secs   851,549,032  games/sec

Board:
Dead: 

   equity    win    tie          pots won    pots tied   
Hand 0:    63.785%     63.24%    00.54%         200343424      1711636.00   { JcJd }
Hand 1:    36.215%     35.67%    00.54%         113009544      1711636.00   { 55+, A2s+, KJs+, QJs, J9s+, T9s, 98s, 87s, ATo+, KJo+ }


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« Reply #12 on: July 20, 2010, 12:18:15 PM »

Without any history you need to tighten those ranges up hugely.

Even if you manage to tighten them up enough to make the maths say fold it's still a call though.
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« Reply #13 on: July 20, 2010, 12:22:32 PM »

Range for Hand 2 is QQ+ and AK

range for hand 1 - 99+ AQ+


not that the results really matter, but I folded, villain1 had AK and villain 2 had QQ
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« Reply #14 on: July 20, 2010, 12:30:54 PM »

Fold, one of them has QQ.
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