Continuation Bets?

[henderson]

I have a problem with them. I don't like them. I usually just end up losing the money. If I miss the flop, I don't like to bet, except for the occasional situational bluff and semi-bluff.

If you raised pre-flop and hit big, you are often going to check till the turn anyway. So your opponent isn't necessarily going to "know" whether you missed or hit.

But some people seem to think a continuation bet is usually in order.

Any thoughts? Thanks.

[railtard1]

If you have raised the hand preflop (especially if in psoition), and pick up one caller, you should be winning the hand a huge % of the time. The times you flop the best hand, and the times ur opponent has not flopped a hand strong enough to continue with. Alot of the time (if a blind has peeled for example and he has then check called the flop) we can win by double barrelling (betting flop, then barrelling turn) on certain boards. Obviously factors such as our opponents range in the hand (using all our available information to accurately predict out opponents likely holding), stack sizing and board texture are vital to determining how we are proceeding.
"C-betting" in multi way pots is slightly more complex. Some of the time its fine to check fold, but other times we can C-bet a small amount. A big mistake players make (especially new MTT players) is C-betting too big on boards that dont require such large sizing. For example you have opened the pot when folded to with  . Both blinds have called, and it comes like  . Its fine, and probably correct to bet like 1/3rd or even liek 1/4 pot on these boards. Its a board that has no draws and your not going to get check raised with air very often. The small betting is also saving us some for the time our opponents have Ax or even 5x.
you also mentioned "checking big hands" on the flop. I dont really like this. For balance (betting strong hands and weak hands on the flop), and to build pots to win stacks we should be betting our strong value hands!! Obv there is exceptions, and its pretty much impossible to talk about some theory in writing, but i think experimenting is the only way to find out what your comfortable with.
gl

[sovietsong]

Nice post RT

[strak33]

The guy is posting this everywhere pretty sure i have seen it on other forums.

Dont know why he is though.

[TightPaulFolds]

If someone c-bets about 50-80 % of the pot I normally float or reraise them. Why are you betting this percentage? Did you hit the flop hard? Yes? Well bet the pot, or check, or min bet. If you bet 50-80% you are just trying to take it down as cheaply as possible.

That's what I've found anyway. Might be wrong, I'm a fish.

[George2Loose]

If someone c-bets about 50-80 % of the pot I normally float or reraise them. Why are you betting this percentage? Did you hit the flop hard? Yes? Well bet the pot, or check, or min bet. If you bet 50-80% you are just trying to take it down as cheaply as possible.

That's what I've found anyway. Might be wrong, I'm a fish.

lol- no one bets pot

[TightPaulFolds]

If someone c-bets about 50-80 % of the pot I normally float or reraise them. Why are you betting this percentage? Did you hit the flop hard? Yes? Well bet the pot, or check, or min bet. If you bet 50-80% you are just trying to take it down as cheaply as possible.

That's what I've found anyway. Might be wrong, I'm a fish.

lol- no one bets pot

This

I don't play at your level, it's probably very different up there. What SNG would you play? $200? A different game I imagine.

[railtard1]

fundamentals are the same

[ACE2M]

If someone c-bets about 50-80 % of the pot I normally float or reraise them. Why are you betting this percentage? Did you hit the flop hard? Yes? Well bet the pot, or check, or min bet. If you bet 50-80% you are just trying to take it down as cheaply as possible.

That's what I've found anyway. Might be wrong, I'm a fish.

lol- no one bets pot

half the field bet pot in $5 - $40 mtt range on FT.

[mondatoo]

If someone c-bets about 50-80 % of the pot I normally float or reraise them. Why are you betting this percentage? Did you hit the flop hard? Yes? Well bet the pot, or check, or min bet. If you bet 50-80% you are just trying to take it down as cheaply as possible.

That's what I've found anyway. Might be wrong, I'm a fish.

lol- no one bets pot

At least half the field are terrible and bet pot in $5 - $40 mtt range on FT.

[George2Loose]

If someone c-bets about 50-80 % of the pot I normally float or reraise them. Why are you betting this percentage? Did you hit the flop hard? Yes? Well bet the pot, or check, or min bet. If you bet 50-80% you are just trying to take it down as cheaply as possible.

That's what I've found anyway. Might be wrong, I'm a fish.

lol- no one bets pot

half the field bet pot in $5 - $40 mtt range on FT.

And it's flawed thinking to think just cos they're betting pot they have a hand

[TightPaulFolds]

If someone c-bets about 50-80 % of the pot I normally float or reraise them. Why are you betting this percentage? Did you hit the flop hard? Yes? Well bet the pot, or check, or min bet. If you bet 50-80% you are just trying to take it down as cheaply as possible.

That's what I've found anyway. Might be wrong, I'm a fish.

lol- no one bets pot

half the field bet pot in $5 - $40 mtt range on FT.

And it's flawed thinking to think just cos they're betting pot they have a hand

[ ] Betting 65% of the pot being a possible indication of c-betting (therefore) betting pot means they have a hand.

They bet pot = bluff/hand fair enough, but 65% more likely to be a cbet than the 100%.

The way I see it, most of the bets you're coming across postflop are c-bets no? And what are they probably gonna look like?

[ACE2M]

If someone c-bets about 50-80 % of the pot I normally float or reraise them. Why are you betting this percentage? Did you hit the flop hard? Yes? Well bet the pot, or check, or min bet. If you bet 50-80% you are just trying to take it down as cheaply as possible.

That's what I've found anyway. Might be wrong, I'm a fish.

lol- no one bets pot

half the field bet pot in $5 - $40 mtt range on FT.

And it's flawed thinking to think just cos they're betting pot they have a hand

absolutely, it does effectivley take out the float as a play early doors though.

[DMorgan]

If someone c-bets about 50-80 % of the pot I normally float or reraise them. Why are you betting this percentage? Did you hit the flop hard? Yes? Well bet the pot, or check, or min bet

...wut?

[TightPaulFolds]

There are times when players who figure they have the best hand are betting 50-80% too obv . I'm just saying, sometimes combined with other factors like soul reads etc, it's just more likely.
Been playing a lot of 'Rush' over the last few weeks, just been one long stream of cbets.

There's probably a diff in c-bet sizes between online and live too.

OP, I think a lot of players find themselves asking your question too. They figure..well I have AK, nice hand, raise 3xbb, 2 callers, missed flop, must bet. Well maybe it's time to start looking at the preflop bet too and what you hoped to gain by doing it, even in position. You get a lot of it early doors in STTs, spunking chips imo.