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« Reply #15 on: August 17, 2010, 10:54:41 PM »

That adds up to 101 times out of 100

Rounding errors obv Roll Eyes
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« Reply #16 on: August 17, 2010, 11:03:19 PM »

Any reads, looks like he might be good given his opening raise size.

Think I normally fold this but would shove with a read. If he had opened the co/btn i would probably shove, pretty marginal spot imo and reads are important.



he was pretty active two tabs out and had raised late pos on FT.

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« Reply #17 on: August 17, 2010, 11:04:12 PM »

thank you all.

i shoved, he passed.

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« Reply #18 on: August 18, 2010, 01:06:35 AM »

Me likey
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« Reply #19 on: August 18, 2010, 01:33:02 AM »

thank you all.

i shoved, he passed.



prob a mistake according to sng wiz - if he is raising any two, it grudgingly recommends pushing 44+. 
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« Reply #20 on: August 18, 2010, 01:43:21 PM »

thank you all.

i shoved, he passed.



prob a mistake according to sng wiz - if he is raising any two, it grudgingly recommends pushing 44+. 

Surely result from ICM calculation vary a lot depending on how many cards opponent is raise-calling with?
We need two reads to run the numbers for a definate answer, what he's opening with and from those cards, which ones he's calling your shove with.

I lean towards shoving if it's close, the reason being there is usually value in future rounds if players to your right are frequent raisers but you show that you're not shy to get your stack in and 3 bet.
The raisers to your right tighten up their opening standards, giving you lots more profitable oppurtunities to open the betting and take down the blinds in future rounds from the small blind, button and cut-off.
in cruder terms, more 3 bets send a message to people to keep their filthy hands off your bubble.
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« Reply #21 on: August 18, 2010, 04:08:45 PM »

definate shove. i wouldn't think twice.

all the money to be made in the 45-mans comes from spots such as this - just pure aggression on the final table when everyone seems to comically tighten up and chips are for the taking.
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« Reply #22 on: August 18, 2010, 04:59:23 PM »

definate shove. i wouldn't think twice.

all the money to be made in the 45-mans comes from spots such as this - just pure aggression on the final table when everyone seems to comically tighten up and chips are for the taking.

I thought it was two tables out Smiley

I disagree that you should always be shoving here,it's definitely villain dependant.
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« Reply #23 on: August 18, 2010, 05:51:35 PM »

definate shove. i wouldn't think twice.

all the money to be made in the 45-mans comes from spots such as this - just pure aggression on the final table when everyone seems to comically tighten up and chips are for the taking.

I thought it was two tables out Smiley

I disagree that you should always be shoving here,it's definitely villain dependant.

nope, it's final.

i would shove every time here, unless i have a massive read on villain. but fair enough, agree to disagree Smiley
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« Reply #24 on: August 18, 2010, 05:54:31 PM »

definate shove. i wouldn't think twice.

all the money to be made in the 45-mans comes from spots such as this - just pure aggression on the final table when everyone seems to comically tighten up and chips are for the taking.

I thought it was two tables out Smiley

I disagree that you should always be shoving here,it's definitely villain dependant.

nope, it's final.

i would shove every time here, unless i have a massive read on villain. but fair enough, agree to disagree Smiley

Against a tight villain I'm not shoving here Tom.
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« Reply #25 on: August 18, 2010, 06:27:51 PM »

I fold here quite often without reads.

Otherwise is completely villian dependant
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« Reply #26 on: August 18, 2010, 06:55:01 PM »

he's 2.4x'd it.

He may be tight but what's tight in this day and age? In the CO are you saying he folds JTs - QK, 22-44, A7s - AT

The ranges above he could easily raise fold if hes a tight player
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« Reply #27 on: August 18, 2010, 07:02:22 PM »

I jam, then jam somemore then i jam again.
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« Reply #28 on: August 18, 2010, 07:24:13 PM »

Read required to shove here

Default is to fold
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« Reply #29 on: August 18, 2010, 07:34:43 PM »

he's 2.4x'd it.

He may be tight but what's tight in this day and age? In the CO are you saying he folds JTs - QK, 22-44, A7s - AT

The ranges above he could easily raise fold if hes a tight player

I very much doubt his range is this wide
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