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« Reply #15 on: August 24, 2010, 02:27:20 PM »

Why can't he have these, he has Q5 in his hand ffs 

Blockers.

?? the only blockers known are whats on the board, still plenty combinations that beat him

my point is he is only calling a raise with a boat and therefore your beat, so whats the point of raising. 

If that was the case we could just bluff for fun in PLO and make incred money

elaborate?Huh??       he would have to be a grade A donkey to call a raise on any paired board without a boat, even if it is double paired.....just find raising here to be absolutely pointless. yes i would be confident i was ahead, but not 100% sure

He's obviously not going to call but he may suss out that we can't call without a boat either and stick one in our eye.

Then if we're really really good we call anyway because we know he's good enough to know that we're good enough to deduce that he hasn't got a boat.

Basically we've got a good hand that we're bluffing with but in a good way if we can turn that bluff in to a hero call.

If we raise river then fold to a worse hand we're a donkey.

If we're not good enough to figure several steps ahead and decide to raise to induce a bluff (I include myself here btw) then yes there is no point raising the river.

Yeah vs this isnt a STANDARD river bet, I would 100% just call a lot of the time, but I'm sure raising here vs his actual range is +EV.
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« Reply #16 on: August 24, 2010, 02:57:19 PM »

I guess its nice to know that most people snapfold nut flushes to river raises on paired boards
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« Reply #17 on: August 24, 2010, 03:01:15 PM »

This would have been so much better if Cos didn't post the full HH.

Just post it up to oppo's river bet and see the different responses. People can't help but be swayed when they know the guy has a good hand as well.
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« Reply #18 on: August 24, 2010, 03:16:33 PM »

This would have been so much better if Cos didn't post the full HH.

Just post it up to oppo's river bet and see the different responses. People can't help but be swayed when they know the guy has a good hand as well.

You sure the full HH isn't doctored mate?
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« Reply #19 on: August 24, 2010, 04:32:09 PM »

This would have been so much better if Cos didn't post the full HH.

Just post it up to oppo's river bet and see the different responses. People can't help but be swayed when they know the guy has a good hand as well.

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« Reply #20 on: August 24, 2010, 06:22:12 PM »

This would have been so much better if Cos didn't post the full HH.

Just post it up to oppo's river bet and see the different responses. People can't help but be swayed when they know the guy has a good hand as well.

You sure the full HH isn't doctored mate?

How exciting!!!!!

So did oppo actually have the full house with Q3?

You did raise on the river because you're da man then he stuck one in your eye and you snapped him the fuck off?
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« Reply #21 on: August 24, 2010, 10:13:29 PM »

what so he had K783 for a boat?

Told you he had that and you should fold fishcake
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« Reply #22 on: October 28, 2010, 12:33:36 PM »

no no, just a level. hh is correct
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« Reply #23 on: October 28, 2010, 02:34:50 PM »

Did we miss 88 from his combos? i like this thread. Definitely some opponent type dependency on wether i would raise here.
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« Reply #24 on: October 30, 2010, 04:24:46 AM »

against someone really good raise folding is tez.
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« Reply #25 on: October 30, 2010, 04:42:59 AM »

against someone really good raise folding is tez.

This is a truism, no?
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