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« Reply #15 on: August 24, 2010, 06:14:41 PM »

Why are we raising 80 to fold to a shove if he only has 80 back?

op alluded to raise/folding to $80, which no-one would ever do apart from a love misclick- from OP it seems villain has $115 on river ($80 back + $35 bet)

not sure its such a bad idea. I am pretty much putting him exactly on AK and figure I may get a sigh call if i make it 80 (yes he has 115 going into river, bets 35, calls 45 more). but he will maybe fold to a large raise (35-115 allin). also,if i make it 80 and he shoves, yes its obv only 35 more, but given he has a boat 100% im never donating an extra 35 even if im getting 9:1.
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« Reply #16 on: August 24, 2010, 07:51:37 PM »

sounds like u got coolerd alot in vegas
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« Reply #17 on: August 24, 2010, 08:02:06 PM »

Why are we raising 80 to fold to a shove if he only has 80 back?

op alluded to raise/folding to $80, which no-one would ever do apart from a love misclick- from OP it seems villain has $115 on river ($80 back + $35 bet)

not sure its such a bad idea. I am pretty much putting him exactly on AK and figure I may get a sigh call if i make it 80 (yes he has 115 going into river, bets 35, calls 45 more). but he will maybe fold to a large raise (35-115 allin). also,if i make it 80 and he shoves, yes its obv only 35 more, but given he has a boat 100% im never donating an extra 35 even if im getting 9:1.

I dont like your 100% here Alex, I know it seems that way, but even if its 100% we should still call then see his cards and muck. Would rather pay the 35 more than tell the whole table im happy to fold in hands like this.
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« Reply #18 on: August 24, 2010, 10:15:48 PM »

also. KcTh is a really good hand, and KsTs is not a fishy call 150bigs effective imo its terrible to fold

Definitely disagree that folding would be terrible. If OP has his preflop range correct then we're 29% against his range.

Not saying that calling is necessarily bad but folding is far from terrible imo

yeah, folding isnt terrible I would never do it cos im a sucker for the sooooteds Smiley

but i disagree that this range could be right for anyone in a live cash game
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