oh wow, really mr fish?

[AlexMartin]

villain is a lunatic 70/46 but appears fairly weaktight postflop,  seen him c/c a backdoored non-nut flush on river. Fold to cbet is 40% but only got about 500 hands on him.

thoughts?

***** Hand History for Game 3572815047 ***** (Prima)
$400.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Thursday, October 14, 09:15:02 ET 2010
Table DeepStack 154 (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Seat 1: TheMutts ( $848.50 USD )
Seat 2: MaybeHot ( $423.00 USD )
Seat 3: Sk1llGaMe ( $978.00 USD )
Seat 4: 2slim4gym ( $418.00 USD )
Seat 5: Moonwatcher ( $478.40 USD )
Seat 6: FetSumo ( $378.00 USD )
2slim4gym posts small blind [$2.00 USD].
Moonwatcher posts big blind [$4.00 USD].
Dealt to Sk1llGaMe [  ]
FetSumo folds
TheMutts raises [$13.00 USD]
MaybeHot folds
Sk1llGaMe raises [$28.00 USD]
2slim4gym folds
Moonwatcher folds
TheMutts calls [$15.00 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ , , ]
TheMutts checks
Sk1llGaMe bets [$36.00 USD]
TheMutts calls [$36.00 USD]
** Dealing Turn ** [ ]
TheMutts bets [$90.00 USD]
Sk1llGaMe calls [$90.00 USD]
** Dealing River ** [ ]
TheMutts bets [$312.00 USD]

[action man]

villain JT?  dont like float vs unpredictable loon who could just open jam riv

[Rupert]

flops about the only street i'm happy with.  imo preflop we want value heavy hands not hands we can semi-bluff with since this kind of player is seldom going to fold and we want to just take him to value town.  flops obviously good since it's helluva dry and we have a gutty but turn/river...? don't understand unless you're randomly putting the weak tight guy on complete air

[pleno1]

He has AQ. Good call.

[outragous76]

If he folds to c bets 40% of the time why do we think he has nothing?

I don't like the spot, the only reason I could begin to think about calling is because of the overjam.

But I pass

[maryhadalamb]

Not really a remark on hand, but there are definitely fish types who will take passive/trapping lines with their made hands and a lot of their actual betting range is air. I'd want to have some kind of note. What was your reasoning for pf? ?

[skolsuper]

If he folds to c bets 40% of the time why do we think he has nothing?

I don't like the spot, the only reason I could begin to think about calling is because of the overjam.

But I pass

Because 40% is very low. However this is the kind of board where I'd expect to get folds more often than most because it is so unconnected, so I don't think this is a great spot for a hero call. He has 45 some of the time, J2 J3 some of the time, Jx some of the time, even some of his bluffs beat you (77-99, A6). Judging by his preflop stats it's impossible for him to have AK or AQ either which would make up a lot of the stubborn "oh but I had such a pretty hand at the beginning" spazz bluffs.

[Whollyflush]

yea preflop is dangerous, against weak passive players calling down you need better starting hands. Maybe TJo plus to 3bet isolate. I'd probably call river FML we have a pair against a moron,

[pleno1]

when he shoves his range is polarised to nuts/air yeah? Doubt he has two pair, 2 pair on flop would raise as he has shown he wants money in the pot. 10J is a possibility but I guess he would c/r.

I really think he's being spewy and got AQ/AK kinda hand that picked up equity on turn and decided to go crazy.

Also think your image is especially important here too, is it the usually super aggressive Alex Martin?

[DMorgan]

flops about the only street i'm happy with.  imo preflop we want value heavy hands not hands we can semi-bluff with since this kind of player is seldom going to fold and we want to just take him to value town.  flops obviously good since it's helluva dry and we have a gutty but turn/river...? don't understand unless you're randomly putting the weak tight guy on complete air

+1

[EvilPie]

He has 

You got seriously value towned.

[doubleup]

when he shoves

he doesnt shove they are 200bbs deep

the intrepid mr martin no doubt would like consideration of what hands him shoving would fold


btw villain has been playing on prima for quite a while and is superfckindangerous to your bankroll and sanity.

[AlexMartin]

really disagree with the preflop comments. can those who think its bad please elaborate in-depth.

[Rupert]

really disagree with the preflop comments. can those who think its bad please elaborate in-depth.

70/46 are the type of players that don't rly like to fold.  56s is the type of hand that u try to flop a draw with but most of the time you flop nothing and some of the time you flop a pair.  we're going to end up bluffing the calling station a lot.  we want to play hands that flop top pair

[Rupert]

dunno why didnt even see we were deep def don't mind it nearly as much but 100bbs deep id def hate it.  soz should probs read ops before posting