huge botring smashed at ftp

[TightEnd]

and this

As a reminder, we still support at least four other good rooms at the moment, and a couple of these have shown a great interest in having our bots play there. We think that “bot-friendly” is really the wave of the future, and that soon smart operators will realize how much online poker players love tinkering and playing with bot software and will make a “bots welcome” official policy as a result. Yes, we really do believe that or we wouldn’t be in this business. Some of our currently supported rooms are getting close to this in fact.


My bolds.


Potentially a very big story, that I would suggest the sites in question are currently doing their utmost to keep quiet.

[Pelham Boy]

and this

As a reminder, we still support at least four other good rooms at the moment, and a couple of these have shown a great interest in having our bots play there. We think that “bot-friendly” is really the wave of the future, and that soon smart operators will realize how much online poker players love tinkering and playing with bot software and will make a “bots welcome” official policy as a result. Yes, we really do believe that or we wouldn’t be in this business. Some of our currently supported rooms are getting close to this in fact.


My bolds.


Potentially a very big story, that I would suggest the sites in question are currently doing their utmost to keep quiet.

Wow. This is going to be huge.

[tikay]

and this

As a reminder, we still support at least four other good rooms at the moment, and a couple of these have shown a great interest in having our bots play there. We think that “bot-friendly” is really the wave of the future, and that soon smart operators will realize how much online poker players love tinkering and playing with bot software and will make a “bots welcome” official policy as a result. Yes, we really do believe that or we wouldn’t be in this business. Some of our currently supported rooms are getting close to this in fact.


My bolds.


Potentially a very big story, that I would suggest the sites in question are currently doing their utmost to keep quiet.

It sure would be hard to guess the identity of that network.

[RED-DOG]

I can't make up my mind on this, at all. googling gives me answers, but I'm not convinced, not one bit.

we must seriously consider un-supporting Full Tilt poker

"un-supporting"?

If it sounds wrong, & looks wrong, it probably is. I shall need to make some discrete enquiries (or is that "inquiries"?) amongst my learned friends.

If it doesn't look like a duck. doesn't sound like a duck, and doesn't act like a duck, then it's an unduck. 

[mondatoo]

I poker obviously happy to have losing players bots.

[wormster]

so how can anyone play online poker when it's clear it's not a level playing field?

[RED-DOG]

so how can anyone play online poker when it's clear it's not a level playing field?

Just play downhill.

[tikay]

so how can anyone play online poker when it's clear it's not a level playing field?

Steve! How are you?

Do NOT worry about "bots", Steve, you would not be at a disadvantage playing against them. It's wrong, of course it is, but the suggestion that they can beat a half-competent player does not wash with me.

[EvilPie]

so how can anyone play online poker when it's clear it's not a level playing field?

Steve! How are you?

Do NOT worry about "bots", Steve, you would not be at a disadvantage playing against them. It's wrong, of course it is, but the suggestion that they can beat a half-competent player does not wash with me.

They obviously win long term though or they wouldn't be there.

This means that they are just slowly sucking the money out of the games at whatever level they play.

[TightEnd]

hypothetical and unanswerable question


Where would network liquidity in all bar the top two sites be without them?


Perhaps tacitly accepting them, as implied earlier in the thread, is the lesser of two commercial evils for the second tier networks.

[tikay]

so how can anyone play online poker when it's clear it's not a level playing field?

Steve! How are you?

Do NOT worry about "bots", Steve, you would not be at a disadvantage playing against them. It's wrong, of course it is, but the suggestion that they can beat a half-competent player does not wash with me.

They obviously win long term though or they wouldn't be there.

This means that they are just slowly sucking the money out of the games at whatever level they play.

Really? Would the same logic not apply to any regular player? How can a bot play better than a, err, un-bot? Many players can play close to optimally, & that's all a bot does, surely? Since when did a bot's Aces not be susceptible to being beat, just the same as yours & mine?

Not arguing*, just curious.

* Well, I am, I suppose.

[tikay]

hypothetical and unanswerable question


Where would network liquidity in all bar the top two sites be without them?


Perhaps tacitly accepting them, as implied earlier in the thread, is the lesser of two commercial evils for the second tier networks.

Sorry to be a pedant, but you are, I think, implying that Stars & Tilt are "networks", but in the accepted sense they are not.

I think you mean "major networks".

[TightEnd]

hypothetical and unanswerable question


Where would network liquidity in all bar the top two sites be without them?


Perhaps tacitly accepting them, as implied earlier in the thread, is the lesser of two commercial evils for the second tier networks.

Sorry to be a pedant, but you are, I think, implying that Stars & Tilt are "networks", but in the accepted sense they are not.

I think you mean "major networks".

I wasn't implying that. Stars and Tilt are stand alone and represent the first tier.

I include I-Poker in any question such as that I ponder above

[doubleup]

How can a bot play better than a, err, un-bot?

tikay many of them employ shortstack strategies that would be identical to the strategies used by "real" short stack players, but they don't ever make mistakes or get tired and can play many tables.  They generally break even or lose slightly and win thru rakeback.

[tikay]

How can a bot play better than a, err, un-bot?

tikay many of them employ shortstack strategies that would be identical to the strategies used by "real" short stack players, but they don't ever make mistakes or get tired and can play many tables.  They generally break even or lose slightly and win thru rakeback.

Like regular players, then.