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« on: November 07, 2010, 01:25:48 AM »

he is an guy in his mid 40s and he has a tash which seemed quite well groomed

Is his range kk+ and ak when he 4bet shoves me with the speech

I had qq in this spot could he be doing it with less?
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« Reply #1 on: November 07, 2010, 02:13:43 AM »

he is an guy in his mid 40s and he has a tash which seemed quite well groomed

Is his range kk+ and ak when he 4bet shoves me with the speech

I had qq in this spot could he be doing it with less?

How did the action go?

In the absence of other info the bolded bit leans me towards a call
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« Reply #2 on: November 07, 2010, 08:13:08 AM »

Mid 40s isn't old

stack sizes and circumstances like your image etc would help.  . .
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« Reply #3 on: November 07, 2010, 08:49:43 AM »

my stackk 26k his 19.5

utg limp

he raises to 1.4
i raise to 4.4
he jams with speech

i dont really care about the action. justabout speechs made by old men whilst shoving is normally nuts right
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« Reply #4 on: November 07, 2010, 09:08:23 AM »

my stackk 26k his 19.5

utg limp

he raises to 1.4
i raise to 4.4
he jams with speech

i dont really care about the action. justabout speechs made by old men whilst shoving is normally nuts right

as someone who sees mid-40s as young, I'd be happy for you to assume my range was this tight.

So, to be clear, all i have to say is "I'll gamble with you"?
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« Reply #5 on: November 07, 2010, 09:16:26 AM »

old man = older than me
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« Reply #6 on: November 07, 2010, 12:25:32 PM »

Was it red dog? If the answer to this is yes then your  beat without the speech
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« Reply #7 on: November 07, 2010, 01:00:08 PM »

Was it red dog? If the answer to this is yes then your  beat without the speech

no it wasnt him
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« Reply #8 on: November 07, 2010, 01:22:24 PM »

I often find that when mid-aged guys say sstuff like this they are actually being genuine and the move is in their opinion "looser than average" maybe he has JJ or AK, or maybe he's giving you a spin with AQ

Some people say stuff like this with AA and then trimphantly slam there hand down and praise themselves for "getting you to get your money in with XX" but most people understand this is a really douchey thing to do.

When they start saying stuff like "I cant let you raise every hand" "I know you've got fuck all" "No shame in folding"

That's when Id start to think about how fast id be folding
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« Reply #9 on: November 07, 2010, 01:53:14 PM »

Btw 40 is not middle aged or old middle aged is 50 old is 90 (tikay)
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« Reply #10 on: November 07, 2010, 02:27:15 PM »

Why are we limping?
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« Reply #11 on: November 07, 2010, 02:29:04 PM »

40 is old. id probs say 32 was old.
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« Reply #12 on: November 07, 2010, 04:12:16 PM »

Btw 40 is not middle aged or old middle aged is 50 old is 90 (tikay)

50 is not middle aged

90 may be old
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« Reply #13 on: November 07, 2010, 04:41:25 PM »

I didn't limp the other terrible player did utg not me
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« Reply #14 on: November 08, 2010, 04:40:27 AM »

im sorry if i offended any one

i have found out who they guy was his name is john sadler the grand prix champion lol
good player he is
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