referees on strike. all scotlandshire league fixtures cancelled next week

[celtic]

Not exactly the same issue but not completely unlinked.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/scot_prem/9225458.stm

Haha, would be pretty ridic if Dallas got the sack. Comedy email imo. Hardly sectarianism as is being claimed.

[Teacake]

Not exactly the same issue but not completely unlinked.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/scot_prem/9225458.stm

Haha, would be pretty ridic if Dallas got the sack. Comedy email imo. Hardly sectarianism as is being claimed.

He gets off tomorrow,Stuart  Regan wanted him sacked but the old guard closed ranks and backed dallas

[Rod Paradise]

Forgive my ignorance, genuinely, but why would Chick being a St Mirren fan be so bad and render his views completely pointless?

Is there a single commentator/journalist on Scottish football who is neutral and respected on all sides and thus worth reading for a balanced view on this? If so, who? Links if you like.

That's twice you've completely missed the sarcasm (which I thought was really obvious) in my posts. I thought we only needed cue cards for Boba, the man who thinks Hugh Dallas going missing is because he retired as a ref, when instead he's the referees supervisor. Good luck with any credibilty in theis debate going forwards son.....

[Hairydude]

Not exactly the same issue but not completely unlinked.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/scot_prem/9225458.stm

Haha, would be pretty ridic if Dallas got the sack. Comedy email imo. Hardly sectarianism as is being claimed.

He gets off tomorrow,Stuart  Regan wanted him sacked but the old guard closed ranks and backed dallas

Do you think he should have been sacked because of that email?

[Rod Paradise]

Not exactly the same issue but not completely unlinked.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/scot_prem/9225458.stm

Haha, would be pretty ridic if Dallas got the sack. Comedy email imo. Hardly sectarianism as is being claimed.

Agoin though - if they're willing to strike over their 'integrity' being questioned they have to get rid of anyone whose integrity is proven questionable.

Personally I think Dallas deserves the sack before MacDonald does - he knew MacDonald had lied on the sunday night, but still attacked Neil Lennon on the Monday saying he'd accepted the referee's explanation. That was using the lie to score points.

Also the referee's association, through the SFA reported that Craven (the linesman in the Celtic v Dundee Utd game) resigned due to abuse and threats from Celtic fans to his family. When he spoke it he categorically denied those accusations. So there's more than one liar there.

I personally believe that Collum lied about his 'death threats', his reason for no police involvement? Not wanting to escalate things and make it worse, but a day later it's in all the press (from the SFA/Ref's Association) & it's us bad Celtic fans again. That one's really not credible.

In the end the only ones attacked in this whole sorry affair? A Celtic player's family and friends, besieged in his house in the aftermath of a Rangers victory, but we're the bad guys.

[henrik777]

Not exactly the same issue but not completely unlinked.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/scot_prem/9225458.stm

Haha, would be pretty ridic if Dallas got the sack. Comedy email imo. Hardly sectarianism as is being claimed.

He gets off tomorrow,Stuart  Regan wanted him sacked but the old guard closed ranks and backed dallas

Do you think he should have been sacked because of that email?

He should not be sacked for that although in many businesses emails of that ilk do get people sacked. Many people do it so why sack someone ?

However he should be sacked for his actions in the penalty aftermath. The linesman has said he pressured him to continue the lie. The ref admitted to telling lies. Dallas did hee haw.

Sandy

[Rod Paradise]

Not exactly the same issue but not completely unlinked.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/scot_prem/9225458.stm

Haha, would be pretty ridic if Dallas got the sack. Comedy email imo. Hardly sectarianism as is being claimed.

He gets off tomorrow,Stuart  Regan wanted him sacked but the old guard closed ranks and backed dallas

Do you think he should have been sacked because of that email?

In the position he's in, yes probably he should be given the sectarianism in Scotland. He should never have got the role as his most famous moment was a blatant regard of the laws of football.

[TightEnd]

Forgive my ignorance, genuinely, but why would Chick being a St Mirren fan be so bad and render his views completely pointless?

Is there a single commentator/journalist on Scottish football who is neutral and respected on all sides and thus worth reading for a balanced view on this? If so, who? Links if you like.

That's twice you've completely missed the sarcasm (which I thought was really obvious) in my posts. I thought we only needed cue cards for Boba, the man who thinks Hugh Dallas going missing is because he retired as a ref, when instead he's the referees supervisor. Good luck with any credibilty in theis debate going forwards son.....

Not to me, and I am not the stupidest person in the world. If I was expected to know that being a "St Mirren fan" was a euphemism for being a rabid Rangers fan then gg me. I retire from trying to understand Scottish football lol

[Rod Paradise]

Not exactly the same issue but not completely unlinked.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/scot_prem/9225458.stm

Haha, would be pretty ridic if Dallas got the sack. Comedy email imo. Hardly sectarianism as is being claimed.

He gets off tomorrow,Stuart  Regan wanted him sacked but the old guard closed ranks and backed dallas

Do you think he should have been sacked because of that email?

He should not be sacked for that although in many businesses emails of that ilk do get people sacked. Many people do it so why sack someone ?

However he should be sacked for his actions in the penalty aftermath. The linesman has said he pressured him to continue the lie. The ref admitted to telling lies. Dallas, in full knowldge of the lie criticised Neil Lennon for having accepted the lie but still questioning the decision, and only acknowledged the lie when Craven broke ranks. He's still unavailable for comment, despite being the Referees Supervisor, even though they are on the verge of a strike. Shit he deserves sacked for not doing his job now!!

Sandy

FYP (well, hijacked it really).

[Rod Paradise]

Forgive my ignorance, genuinely, but why would Chick being a St Mirren fan be so bad and render his views completely pointless?

Is there a single commentator/journalist on Scottish football who is neutral and respected on all sides and thus worth reading for a balanced view on this? If so, who? Links if you like.

That's twice you've completely missed the sarcasm (which I thought was really obvious) in my posts. I thought we only needed cue cards for Boba, the man who thinks Hugh Dallas going missing is because he retired as a ref, when instead he's the referees supervisor. Good luck with any credibilty in theis debate going forwards son.....

Not to me, and I am not the stupidest person in the world. If I was expected to know that being a "St Mirren fan" was a euphemism for being a rabid Rangers fan then gg me. I retire from trying to understand Scottish football lol

BTW I was questioning Boba's credibilty, not yours.

I thought putting"" round a statement like that signified quoting others when you didn't believe it. Next time I'll put [ ] St Mirren fan /end[ ].

Still Rich, missing the obvious stupidity in Peat's statement at the beginning of all this was a bit of a cockup for a man of your intelligence.

[TightEnd]

maybe, but I wasn't looking for it!

Anyway, only trying to understand, and struggling to get to grips with the nuances of all this, which seem steeped in decades of bitterness. Possibly with justification, but it depends who I talk to!

[The Baron]

Is there a single commentator/journalist on Scottish football who is neutral and respected on all sides and thus worth reading for a balanced view on this? If so, who? Links if you like.

Good luck finding this.

Kind of why I asked, and I sense part of the problem

Not exactly a Patrick Barclay, Henry Winter or Matt Dickinson setting a respected agenda in the media on it up there is there? Unless someone tells me I am wrong


Roddy Forsyth is a big Rangers man isn't he, for example?

I don't mind RF, he is a Rangers man but he's pretty objective usually as is Graham Speirs another Rangers man.
Glenn Gibbons who used to write for The Scotsman was good, he is a Celtic fan, after that I'm really struggling the standard is appalling.

Hugh McIlvanney is obviously  different class but is English based and writes mostly about boxing, I've no idea who he supports.

Teacake ftw.

[Teacake]

Not exactly the same issue but not completely unlinked.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/scot_prem/9225458.stm

Haha, would be pretty ridic if Dallas got the sack. Comedy email imo. Hardly sectarianism as is being claimed.

He gets off tomorrow,Stuart  Regan wanted him sacked but the old guard closed ranks and backed dallas

Do you think he should have been sacked because of that email?

That's an ecumenical matter 

Seriously I think he should be sacked but I hate the man with a vengeance. I remember when he was refereeing in the Lanarkshire amateur leagues years ago, he used to ref the games almost from the touchline, basically like a linesman, it was bizarre, he was a complete fud back then as well, he just loved the attention, a complete ego maniac.

At worst the email is sectarian at best it shows  a complete lack of judgement from a senior office holder in an organisation who are supposed to be acting along with others in ridding Scottish football of sectarianism. Its hardly the best use of company time and facilities to forward something which is blatantly mocking the Catholic Church as well as joking about child abuse.

[Josedinho]

Completely unrelated but a question for Scottish blondes.....
Just seen Ally McCoist while watching the Rangers V Man U game. On his jumper he has his initials as AMc

Why does the "c" need to be there? His initials are AM aren't they?

I've seen this with other Scottish managers/coaches/players but never questioned it before.

[henrik777]

Completely unrelated but a question for Scottish blondes.....
Just seen Ally McCoist while watching the Rangers V Man U game. On his jumper he has his initials as AMc

Why does the "c" need to be there? His initials are AM aren't they?

I've seen this with other Scottish managers/coaches/players but never questioned it before.

I refuse to tap that one in !!!

Sandy