MiniFTOPS turn spot

[cambridgealex]

A friend gave me this HH over the phone so don't have many specifics i'm afraid. I know he's in the last 2500 of a 15,000 field so assuming near the money bubble. He's been at his current table 3orbits, raised about 3 hands one of which ended up allin pre and doubled up with aces.

He raises  in the hijack, to 2.1x from a 30bb stack. Cutoff flats playing 40bbs, the blinds both playing 40bbs both fold.

He cbets a TT4 flop. Villain calls. Turn comes a J. He checks and villain "bets pot". I think he said the bet was 20k and Hero has 54k total.

What hand does villain have to bet pot on the turn here, that he flats pre, and flats the flop with? Should our turn line be bet/call, check/shove, check/fold? check/call shove river? seems a kind of gross spot...

[DMorgan]

Nice bink vs KQ, jam and hold now

fwiw this is pretty much a cooler imo if you don't have the best hand here

[pleno1]

Hmmmm, I initially thought he was polarised between hands that he was slowplaying and hands that he was floating with. He could have floated and picked up equity. I'm not sure if b/c is better then checking

[cambridgealex]

we discussed the idea of check calling the turn and then check folding the river. pretty unconventional but if we check jam the turn we fold out all hands we beat (except KQ and QJ) and get snapped by everything that beats us. if we check call, then we have 34k left, and the pot on the river will be 60k. Villain unlikely to bluff us by the river? i dont know, probs just being results orientated and maybe its just a cooler, just trying to think of ways to avoid getting stacked...

[pleno1]

i like c/c, c/f i think

[Rupert]

well yeah I dislike check jamming for reasons stated, also not a great deal to protect from.  ch/call turn I think is standard even tho he potted, rivers going to suck but check fold it I think, all his weak showdown hands that he was just potting cos he's a fish (like 88, AQ, etc) are gonna check back I think and the only bluff that continues really is 89 and KQ which we have blockers to.  sounds like the sort of player who could value jam a worse jack but hard for him to call with one of those in his hand on the flop