call river or not too call live cash shef g

[paulhouk03]

1£1£ nl in shef g around 2am

I played cash cos i was waiting for my mates to spunk their cash on roulette

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i tried to sit down with all my money i had 400£ish on a 50p 1£ table
one person agreed but one person opposed. So just sat with 200£
played 2 hands prior to hand in question
1st hand i straddled 4 limpers i raised to 15£ and jammed the flop (The two other players had 30£ behind)
2nd hand
Raised and two barrelled another hand and he folded

so had no hands shown down and very aggressive

the table seemed soft/boring.

hand in question 6 handed
pre flop
villain 1 34£
villain 2 160£
me 220£


villain 1 straddled
villain 2 raised to 6 in co
i raised to 19£ with otb
sb bb folded
both others called
flop
467 rainbow
villain 1 jams for 15£
villain 2 calls
I flat ( i wanted him in the pot longer)
turn is a 5 we both check

river 2
he bets 70£ into a dry side pot
i ??



I know i played it bad on every street but thats not the question.
would you call?

 villain 1+2 seem terrible

[GreekStein]

raise flop and get him to stack off with his draws.

[paulhouk03]

Given what's happen would u call?

[BulldozerD]

raise the flop - don't care after that

[GreekStein]

Given I've butchered it, would u call?

Duno, prob not.

[pleno1]

peel pre

[paulhouk03]

raise the flop - don't care after that

can u pls answer the question of calling the river or not thanks

peel pre

I wanted to get the game going abit cos it was a slow boring game.
also wanted to play everything hard and fast because its alot more fun

[BulldozerD]

raise the flop - don't care after that

can u pls answer the question of calling the river or not thanks

peel pre

I wanted to get the game going abit cos it was a slow boring game.
also wanted to play everything hard and fast because its alot more fun

ok i would probably fold but would call against some villains

but you hardly played it hard and fast did you?

[paulhouk03]

raise the flop - don't care after that

can u pls answer the question of calling the river or not thanks

peel pre

I wanted to get the game going abit cos it was a slow boring game.
also wanted to play everything hard and fast because its alot more fun

ok i would probably fold but would call against some villains

but you hardly played it hard and fast did you?

yeah but i like to change gears init (im a twat)

[George2Loose]

Raise flop

[toddswain]

raise flop... as played fold river

[DMorgan]

Folding pretty quick here. The tez live guy playing 1/1 in sheffield has it pretty much always

[Whollyflush]

Funny how ppl start threads then say " i know XYZ is bad but i dont want to talk about that" interesting............

[Rod]

OK, I find this hand very confusing. As I often do when playing live cash.

You have repped a BIG hand here but most live players don't seem to have that much thought to their game and will see a flop anyway, but you said the game was slow and boring, I assume this means passive?

Villian 2's range could be broadway cards, mid pairs maybe connectors? I think it should be anyway. I often find it hard to put players on hands in live cash.

He only calls the jam on the flop. Could still be an overpair he is not sure of how to play, or a slow played monster as you have repped a big hand and he thinks you will raise on that flop with AA or KK (which would actually make sense).

The turn is a scare card for most hands (although the action says it does not help your hand) he checks like he is scared of it, he could be trapping here as if he has put you on AA or KK the card did not help you and should scare you (I don't think checking behind is bad fwiw). The river is a two. It should be a blank as I can't see how he has a 3 here. His range should still be overpairs and sets, maybe he has somehow made a straight. It is actually hard to narrow this down, but I think you are behind more often than not.

We have a pot of £104 by my count and he has bet £70 into a dry side pot. He really should not be bluffing here, the bet would probably be smaller if he was (therefore he should have a straight) and you don't actually beat much. I think it is a fold.

My experience says when playing live cash at this level (which is the level I play) ABC poker gets the money and ABC poker here says fold rather than level yourself with the "he knows that I know" type thinking. 

Interested to know what he had.