is it wrong to give xmas pessies early?

[The Camel]

its a air rifle, let the kid have fun at home. Why does this country try wrapping everyone up in cotton wool

air rifles can and have killed

U can kill someone with a toothpick if u stab them 1,000,000 times with it.
U can also kill someone with a hair off your head

guns don't kill, it is people that kill and they don't need guns to do it.

This cliche annoys me more than any other.

Guns belong in the hands of professional people.

Certainly not kids.

[sofa----king]

its a air rifle, let the kid have fun at home. Why does this country try wrapping everyone up in cotton wool

air rifles can and have killed

U can kill someone with a toothpick if u stab them 1,000,000 times with it.
U can also kill someone with a hair off your head

guns don't kill, it is people that kill and they don't need guns to do it.

This cliche annoys me more than any other.

Guns belong in the hands of professional people.

Certainly not kids.

baseball caps should be on baseballers or sponsored pros...

[marcro]

its a air rifle, let the kid have fun at home. Why does this country try wrapping everyone up in cotton wool

air rifles can and have killed

U can kill someone with a toothpick if u stab them 1,000,000 times with it.
U can also kill someone with a hair off your head

Good to know - if you ever see Sofa walking up to you and he pulls a hair from his head......................... RUN!

[sofa----king]

its a air rifle, let the kid have fun at home. Why does this country try wrapping everyone up in cotton wool

air rifles can and have killed

U can kill someone with a toothpick if u stab them 1,000,000 times with it.
U can also kill someone with a hair off your head

I got short hair it wouldn't work lol

Good to know - if you ever see Sofa walking up to you and he pulls a hair from his head......................... RUN!

[rex008]

Cars kill way more people than guns (in the UK at least). A disproportionate number of these deaths are young people. Yet we still teach them to drive.

[Josedinho]

Cars kill way more people than guns (in the UK at least). A disproportionate number of these deaths are young people. Yet we still teach them to drive.

No of cars in UK please.
No of guns in the UK please.

[Josedinho]

How frequently they are used would be nice too.

TIA

[marcro]

How frequently they are used would be nice too.

TIA

And a break down on the type of bullets used?

[sofa----king]

They say only3% of people are killed by drunk drivers in the Uk
As to 97% of other drivers not drunk

It would be safer if everyone drove pissed according to those statistics

Joke joke joke joke

[the sicilian]

I'd like to see some proper gun clubs in this country... places where you could experience the firing of guns..with the club obv keeping the guns etc... i don't advocate people owning guns and keeping them in their own homes but I don't think theres anything wrong with a few licensed strictly run gun clubs.

TBH i thought these actually existed in this country...until my wife and I went to join a 'gun ' club a few years ago but all we found were lots of blokes in camouflage outfits shooting airguns.. when i enquired whether they had access to proper handguns they all looked at me as if I had raped their first born.. I never knew our gun laws were so draconian... pretty ironic really when you think you can buy fully automatic SMG's from a bloke down the pub so you can do your best Gangbanger impression with your Homies... anyway these blokes were more scary than any gun they could have produced..they were actually crawling through the undergrowth on sniping missions ffs.

I agree only professional people ... police etc should have guns..

[celtic]

looking back sicilidonk, are you pleased your ex-wife didnt get access to a gun? 

[the sicilian]

looking back sicilidonk, are you pleased your ex-wife didnt get access to a gun? 

Its possible the biggest fight would have been who got to pull the trigger first.. however in those days i was worth more dead than alive so wouldnt have fancied my chances with her appetite for money..

[the sicilian]

looking back sicilidonk, are you pleased your ex-wife didnt get access to a gun? 

She used a much more deadly weapon.. Barnes & Co Solicitors

[outragous76]

I agree only professional people ... police etc should have guns..

seems like a balance opinion

shooting is an excellent thing for people to learn in the right environment. It sounds like you have had a bad experience - and in the example you gave above  - i would be all for the police turning up and confiscating their guns and licences and sending them to play paintball.

I have taught 100's of people to shoot (some casually, some went on to be good shots). I have even taught younger kids (14-16), and its amazing how even the little scrotes can be turned into well disciplined shooters if taught in the right way from day 1 (hence my original comment in this thread). If they know how they are expected to behave around guns, and they know they wont get to shoot if they step slightly out of line, they will just do things right by way of good habit.

We have good gun laws in this country, but gun laws or not - if you are intent on getting a gun for illegal purposes - the laws dont matter either way surely?

[sofa----king]

I agree only professional people ... police etc should have guns..

seems like a balance opinion

shooting is an excellent thing for people to learn in the right environment. It sounds like you have had a bad experience - and in the example you gave above  - i would be all for the police turning up and confiscating their guns and licences and sending them to play paintball.

I have taught 100's of people to shoot (some casually, some went on to be good shots). I have even taught younger kids (14-16), and its amazing how even the little scrotes can be turned into well disciplined shooters if taught in the right way from day 1 (hence my original comment in this thread). If they know how they are expected to behave around guns, and they know they wont get to shoot if they step slightly out of line, they will just do things right by way of good habit.

We have good gun laws in this country, but gun laws or not - if you are intent on getting a gun for illegal purposes - the laws dont matter either way surely?

seems like you know what your talking about mate./././so just help me out a little,.,.,.are me and my son good shots or is it the gun??
paced out 45yds put targets up and seriously out of 10 shots each on 10 diff targets we put up at 45 ydsw i hit the bull 6 times and just outside 3 and 3 inches away the last one,,,get this my 13 year old hit the bull 8 times the other 2 in the next ring,,,,.,.,we thin we should go in the 2012 olypics lol,.,.,.,.the gun is a smk 22 with scope was about £150 ish new...hes really pleased with it,,,me too when hes not here its mine lololol