maybe something along the lines of raise 10% call 15-20% and fold the rest of the time with gutshots??
yeh yeh fold the flop 
I dont think you can say do this X% of the time with any kind of hand, personally the reasons Id look for are a) who im in the pot with, if im deep with a bad player, or someone steaming then i'll flick it in, b) if the pot is super multiway, c) if I think I can win some other way (float or semi-bluff)
and yes Alex fold da flop, but that wasnt the question, shod you value bet yeesssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss u should, for Auntie Betty
I wasn't really suggesting that those percentages shgould be ahdered to as such more just that if you fold gutshots all the time it becomes a bit exploitable so throwing in the odd raise and call works so long as you fold most of the time
yh, and when you get therrree.............NO BODY KNOWS!! "he cant have a striaght because it was a gutshot on the flop" BAM - STRAIGHT TO THE RAIL
love this trick. do it with BD straight, flush, 2pair draws etc. call pot sized bet on the flop with 23 on AK9. when it comes 45, get the lot. i believe they call it "implied odds" in the trade.
pretty sure it's called making terrrible calls and geting there lol
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