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« on: December 31, 2010, 08:15:32 PM »

Most of the hands on Rush play out pretty standard and do not take much thinking about, but this one kind of took me out my comfort zone as we were effectively 250bb deep.

Villian is 19/15/7.5 over 200 hands so very aggressive, specifically he has a 60% aggression frequency from the blinds. I have him labelled as one of the tricky players I have come across. Although he has never c/r the turn, his aggression frequency is 67% from the blinds on this street. When he pots the river I had a real 'WTF' moment as I was genuinely confused as to whether just to call or raise for value. If I raise and he shoves got to fold right?

Thoughts please on each street.


Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

MP ($27.71)
CO ($14.59)
Button ($25)
SB ($84.19)
Snakey (BB) ($62.35)
UTG ($10.31)

Preflop: Snakey is BB with 4, 4
4 folds, SB bets $0.80, Snakey calls $0.55

Flop: ($1.60) 4, 6, 10 (2 players)
SB checks, Snakey bets $1.06, SB calls $1.06

Turn: ($3.72) 5 (2 players)
SB checks, Snakey bets $2.46, SB raises to $6.50, Snakey calls $4.04

River: ($16.72) 6 (2 players)
SB bets $16, Snakey is  Huh?
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« Reply #1 on: December 31, 2010, 08:44:32 PM »

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« Reply #2 on: December 31, 2010, 09:21:43 PM »

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What worse hands in his range call?

When he c/r the turn but then pots the river I was confused, his line seemed to contradict itself.
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« Reply #3 on: December 31, 2010, 09:49:05 PM »

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What worse hands in his range call?

When he c/r the turn but then pots the river I was confused, his line seemed to contradict itself.

Flushes.
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« Reply #4 on: December 31, 2010, 10:33:03 PM »

Wouldn't a flush check call river when board pairs as to not bloat the pot?

What range c/r turn then pots river? Sets that have filled up, maybe str8 fd?

To me villian has polarized his range with his line.

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« Reply #5 on: December 31, 2010, 10:47:42 PM »

basically, when someone takes the line on this board of c/c flop, c/r turn it is wayyyyyyyy more often clubs that sets/two pur.
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« Reply #6 on: January 01, 2011, 12:22:39 AM »

Effective stacks at the start of the hand were 250bb, surely if I jam over on the river only boats will call.

Given I have the smallest possible boat I doubt there is any value in reraising.

Just my thoughts.
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« Reply #7 on: January 01, 2011, 01:49:40 AM »

I think making it $45ish looks alot stronger and flushes fold more than jamming.
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« Reply #8 on: January 01, 2011, 02:02:14 AM »

Weird line if he has a FH mate. 65 is poss i guess. You gotta jam this thou. fk 250bb's and all that. Lots of tez players will call worse at nl25 rush. From ur POV only FH's can call thats because ur not a complete donko Smiley Happy new yr btw fish. x
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« Reply #9 on: January 01, 2011, 02:20:12 AM »

Yes Happy New Year Simon, see you in Bolton for more Dublinesque capers!
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« Reply #10 on: January 01, 2011, 02:27:59 AM »

Yes Happy New Year Simon, see you in Bolton for more Dublinesque capers!


lol mate, why u gone all queer on me? no need to refer to me as Simon just because its a different forum. Normally u just call me a twat
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« Reply #11 on: January 01, 2011, 05:02:33 AM »

raiseydaisey. you defo get called by worse. c/r turn is where his range is polarised imo. it's almost never 2pr, sometimes a set but not often. set over set is cooler neway, 250bbs has to go in. he either has a flush or airrrr. jam.
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« Reply #12 on: January 02, 2011, 03:07:14 AM »

Thanks for the replies fellas, interesting analysis.

Fwiw I just flatted as I thought no value in shoving as nothing worse calls, villian flipped  for a spaz out with air.
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« Reply #13 on: January 02, 2011, 03:13:31 AM »

Thanks for the replies fellas, interesting analysis.

Fwiw I just flatted as I thought no value in shoving as nothing worse calls, villian flipped  for a spaz out with air.

Why you post then? You seem to already know the optimal line?
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« Reply #14 on: January 02, 2011, 03:41:32 AM »

Thanks for the replies fellas, interesting analysis.

Fwiw I just flatted as I thought no value in shoving as nothing worse calls, villian flipped  for a spaz out with air.

Why you post then? You seem to already know the optimal line?

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