set?

[ACE2M]

Full Tilt Poker Game #26864642862: $10,000 Guarantee (Early Antes) (208408444), Table 67 - 250/500 Ante 50 - No Limit Hold'em - 18:11:57 ET - 2010/12/31
Seat 1: pwhitingiii (6,953)
Seat 2: ace2m (23,758)
Seat 3: krzysiekmiszcz (24,377)
Seat 4: grebellion (14,138)
Seat 5: taterbabies (4,326)
Seat 6: ol muggins (7,643)
Seat 7: tex965 (26,848)
Seat 8: Lifesonsrv (11,421)
Seat 9: PokerManifesto (27,210)
pwhitingiii antes 50
ace2m antes 50
krzysiekmiszcz antes 50
grebellion antes 50
taterbabies antes 50
ol muggins antes 50
tex965 antes 50
Lifesonsrv antes 50
PokerManifesto antes 50
ace2m posts the small blind of 250
krzysiekmiszcz posts the big blind of 500
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ace2m [ As]
grebellion folds
taterbabies folds
ol muggins folds
tex965 calls 500
Lifesonsrv has 15 seconds left to act
Lifesonsrv folds
PokerManifesto calls 500
pwhitingiii folds
ace2m calls 250
krzysiekmiszcz checks
*** FLOP *** [ ]
ace2m checks
krzysiekmiszcz checks
tex965 checks
PokerManifesto checks
*** TURN *** [ ] []
ace2m bets 1,000
krzysiekmiszcz folds
tex965 raises to 5,450
PokerManifesto folds
ace2m has 15 seconds left to act
ace2m calls 4,450
*** RIVER *** [ ] []
ace2m checks
tex965 bets 20,848, and is all in
ace2m has 15 seconds left to act
ace2m has requested TIME
ace2m: wow. set?
ace2m folds
Uncalled bet of 20,848 returned to tex965
tex965 mucks
tex965 wins the pot (13,350)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 13,350 | Rake 0
Board: [ ]
Seat 1: pwhitingiii (button) folded before the Flop
Seat 2: ace2m (small blind) folded on the River
Seat 3: krzysiekmiszcz (big blind) folded on the Turn
Seat 4: grebellion folded before the Flop
Seat 5: taterbabies folded before the Flop
Seat 6: ol muggins folded before the Flop
Seat 7: tex965 collected (13,350), mucked
Seat 8: Lifesonsrv folded before the Flop
Seat 9: PokerManifesto folded on the Turn

[ACE2M]

would love more opinion on this hand when everyones hangover clears...

[cambridgealex]

This sucks. More player info? Whats the buyin for this tourney as well? Need something to go on because this line is weird.

If we assume he raises AQ, AA and QQ pre, then we lose to 66, 33, A6, flushes and straights. Obv.

In a 4way pot, if he is reasonable, he's probably not checking 66, or A6. He'd also probably bet Axhh. However he could be terrible so it's hard to say.

He'd check 33, and all his xx hh hands. I'm going to rule out 45o. 33 is unlikely because there's only 1 combo left.

Would this player semi bluff with a flush draw on the turn? With no reads I have to stereotype the sort of players in the comp, I'd say unlikely. He's limped in pre. If he's limping with suited connectors instead of raising, it means he wants to see a flop for cheap etc etc, hit it hard, make his flush or his straight and then get paid. These players generally don't semibluff OTT with draws. they cawwwwwl.

So I think the only thing he has here that we lose to is 66 and 33. 66 is possible but made less likely because he a) may raise pre  and b) would probs bet the flop. There's 3 combos of 66 and 1 of 33. Everything else is worse two pairs, one pairs and bluffs. I would call. Then get shown Aces and fuck my life.

[cambridgealex]

also fwiw i think this is a fold pre. and i'd bet the fop.

[ACE2M]

He's been a serial limper but not done anything totally spazzy post flop.

[SuuPRlim]

also fwiw i think this is a fold pre. and i'd bet the fop.

agreed.

His line makes absolutely no sense, but id bet he rarely ever has a set of anything.

I usualy call when things dont make sense but they always have it lol id fold the turn if i was playing well, river when he over bets makes me wanna call now, sigh

[ACE2M]

i want to jam the turn now.

[AlexMartin]

i want to jam the turn now.

this is deffo what id be thinking. that or folding, seeing as i doubt he will continue with river bluffs given u look like 2p and stacks are not good....

[cambridgealex]

i want to jam the turn now.

this is deffo what id be thinking. that or folding, seeing as i doubt he will continue with river bluffs given u look like 2p and stacks are not good....

yeh jam turn probs (i don't think we can fold), but as played im calling off the river.

[SuuPRlim]

I would never normally advocate bet folding the turn in such a situation, but I'd be pretty happy to do it here.

Just feels like its never a bluff and we dont beat anything else as played.

[cambridgealex]

His line makes absolutely no sense, but id bet he rarely ever has a set of anything.

I would never normally advocate bet folding the turn in such a situation, but I'd be pretty happy to do it here.

forgive me for taking things out of context somewhat, but I feel you're contracticting yourself here sirdave. I felt the same, he never has a set. So what, A6? We beat everything else assuming AQ raises pre (on the turn this is). no frush or triplets isit?

newyears day hangover worn off imo.

[DMorgan]

Pre is fine, lead flop bigger and b/f turn I think

As played definitely fold now

[SuuPRlim]

His line makes absolutely no sense, but id bet he rarely ever has a set of anything.

I would never normally advocate bet folding the turn in such a situation, but I'd be pretty happy to do it here.

forgive me for taking things out of context somewhat, but I feel you're contracticting yourself here sirdave. I felt the same, he never has a set. So what, A6? We beat everything else assuming AQ raises pre (on the turn this is). no frush or triplets isit?

newyears day hangover worn off imo.

I dont think he has a set very often, but I think he is just bluffing on the turn so infrequently imo its such a huge raise

[action man]

preflop is fine, lead flop,

as played im jamming/folding turn