Blonde no longer doing DTD deepstack updates?

[LOLICALL]

I just find it very ODD that DTD wouldn't pay half a grand for updaters that would DEFINITELY pay for themselves. They simply must attract at least 2 players every month.

[Laxie]

Genuinely not trying to stir it or anything, but I'd be interested to know what their overlays were in all the months blonde was doing updates as compared to this past one.

[DTD-Nick.W]

Hi All,

I speak for Rob & Simon here as well.

We are more than happy to accommodate blonde doing live updates for any events you guys wish however due to our commitments this year with spend on various other projects we cant fund them solely ourselves.

As you know i have been working on a TV deal which still is in the balance and also some other medias which have to be worked out.

I hope you guys understand.

Cheers Nick

[tikay]

I imagine you've answered this question 10 fold, but why is it your against a 'donate' button?

To be honest, I don't know, probably just stubborn obduracy, & not sure I'm comfy with the whole concept somehow. Hard to explain, really.

I think, it's fair to say, I should perhaps re-examine my thinking there, but irrespective of that, times they are a changing, & I would no longer object if that were decided to be a way forward.

[BulldozerD]

Genuinely not trying to stir it or anything, but I'd be interested to know what their overlays were in all the months blonde was doing updates as compared to this past one.

from memory last January was probably lowest turnout and is probably the worst month anyway in terms of weather, finances etc.

so comparing with other months might be misleading

[Laxie]

Genuinely not trying to stir it or anything, but I'd be interested to know what their overlays were in all the months blonde was doing updates as compared to this past one.

from memory last January was probably lowest turnout and is probably the worst month anyway in terms of weather, finances etc.

so comparing with other months might be misleading

Obv leave the months out of the equation where we know the snow was billowing down.  Or for that matter - include them but understand it was equally bad for both occasions.  Apart from those few months, I still think it would be interesting to keep track of overlays when blonde was involved vs. when they aren't.  IE - did we make a difference?

[LeedsRhodesy]

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Obv leave the months out of the equation where we know the snow was billowing down.  Or for that matter - include them but understand it was equally bad for both occasions.  Apart from those few months, I still think it would be interesting to keep track of overlays when blonde was involved vs. when they aren't.  IE - did we make a difference?
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I really don't understand why we as a forum would pay for the updats!  Is Blonde not a Buiness?  i know we all love reading them but come on!
i would like to see the number at the the next DTD £300 to see if we made the diffrence or not

[TightEnd]

blonde is a business, but not currently a successful one. In an ideal world £650 would be a drop in our ocean but it isn't.  

DTD have been superb with funding our updates for several years, most often in 2010 obviously but prior to that most notably in 2008.

No other live poker provider pays us for updates when really it could be argued that we should be. We're providing a service to the venue to promote their event beforehand, report on it and hopefully lead to higher numbers attending than if we didn't. Our benefit comes from costs being covered, then traffic and membership increases.

However the updates marketplace DTD apart doesn't function like that. At GUKPTs for example several sites rock up and update, and the provider themselves blog (UKIPT too). It doesn't matter if our updates are deemed to be the best, we won't be paid for them.

Hence, in the absence of our own cash resources (Sky Poker deal may change that, we'll see), the continual reliance on sponsors to pay our (now rock bottom) non update costs and update funding. Either that or donation/benefactors

[LeedsRhodesy]

blonde is a business, but not currently a successful one. In an ideal world £650 would be a drop in our ocean but it isn't.  

DTD have been superb with funding our updates for several years, most often in 2010 obviously but prior to that most notably in 2008.

No other live poker provider pays us for updates when really it could be argued that we should be. We're providing a service to the venue to promote their event beforehand, report on it and hopefully lead to higher numbers attending than if we didn't. Our benefit comes from costs being covered, then traffic and membership increases.

However the updates marketplace DTD apart doesn't function like that. At GUKPTs for example several sites rock up and update, and the provider themselves blog (UKIPT too). It doesn't matter if our updates are deemed to be the best, we won't be paid for them.

Hence, in the absence of our own cash resources (Sky Poker deal may change that, we'll see), the continual reliance on sponsors to pay our (now rock bottom) non update costs and update funding. Either that or donation/benefactors

What are the % of sign ups when you are doing an update and how many of them go on to post more then just on that day?

[TightEnd]

blonde is a business, but not currently a successful one. In an ideal world £650 would be a drop in our ocean but it isn't.  

DTD have been superb with funding our updates for several years, most often in 2010 obviously but prior to that most notably in 2008.

No other live poker provider pays us for updates when really it could be argued that we should be. We're providing a service to the venue to promote their event beforehand, report on it and hopefully lead to higher numbers attending than if we didn't. Our benefit comes from costs being covered, then traffic and membership increases.

However the updates marketplace DTD apart doesn't function like that. At GUKPTs for example several sites rock up and update, and the provider themselves blog (UKIPT too). It doesn't matter if our updates are deemed to be the best, we won't be paid for them.

Hence, in the absence of our own cash resources (Sky Poker deal may change that, we'll see), the continual reliance on sponsors to pay our (now rock bottom) non update costs and update funding. Either that or donation/benefactors

What are the % of sign ups when you are doing an update and how many of them go on to post more then just on that day?

The vast majority of those who sign up to post on an update post on updates only

These days, with over 500 new members a month, the updates have only a small additional effect on this figure

The traffic effect is smaller than when we were smaller too. A busy update is 800 posts, a slow one 500. Monte Carlo was exceptional with 1950. We can make that up with a few diaries lol, although update traffic is high quality...poker people so in theory it should convert across to busines. but doesn't! People get it for free, and its nice to have, and thats that 

As I say, updates are a service to members which many enjoy and a service for the venue, if we do them properly and we do. Promotion beforehand, the event, reports afterwards. It's less about boosting blonde's membership and traffic these days.

[henrik777]

I just find it very ODD that DTD wouldn't pay half a grand for updaters that would DEFINITELY pay for themselves. They simply must attract at least 2 players every month.

Are you serious ?

Sandy

[LeedsRhodesy]

So if we were going to offer our great service and do updates for free do you think the Venue would let us  advertise Blonde Poker on the day,  eg like maybe have a few Pull up banners inside and so so

[tikay]

Something to factor into the thinking on this debate.....

blonde Forum is (the Deal is currently only to 31/3/11) sponsored by Sky Poker. Worth considering how DTD might feel about paying to, effectively, encourage traffic to a rival Online Room.

It's getroundable, by keeping the Live Update Board sepearate, but both parties - Sky Poker & DTD - would need to be happy with that. And it's possible they might not be.

[Laxie]

Maybe best to just leave it for the first few months of the Sky deal so blonde can concentrate on getting that side of things right first.  No?

[tikay]

Maybe best to just leave it for the first few months of the Sky deal so blonde can concentrate on getting that side of things right first.  No?

If I'm honest, Dawn, we are not sure what we'll do, hence throwing it out for debate.

I was quite surprised - pleasantly so, I mighty add - to hear from Nick today, though.

It's a bit of a head-scratcher, but a nice head-scratcher, as I'd rather we remained onside with DTD than not be involved at all. Just gotta work it all out.