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« Reply #15 on: January 19, 2011, 10:56:45 AM »

I've wondered this for a while Camel; big winning gamblers in the UK- how do they do it when winning accounts become restricted; in some cases quite rapidly?

Is it just the same way as in the vid with runners doing the betting? or mainly betting in several different shops(which = less value generally)?
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« Reply #16 on: January 19, 2011, 11:21:16 AM »

I had a mate who was a putteroner at the course for a biggish betfair player back in the early days. I went with him one day and it was mental, he was carrying 30-50k and the stress was intense as almost all the bets were struck in the last 30 secs before the off and he tried to get a better price on every bet while the other guy on bluetooth was barking amounts and prices at him.

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« Reply #17 on: January 19, 2011, 11:32:11 AM »

"I've been in this game for over 40 years to give you value, I don't know why anyone would want to bet with anyone else".

I've never written these letters before but:

Fred Done DIAGF

Not a lot of people know this, but Fred had an older brother named Neil.

At the tender age of 15, Neil left the slums of Manchester and travelled to London to seek his fortune. Much to the consternation of his mother.

The six months anniversary of his leaving came and went, and having heard nothing at all from her first born, old Mrs Done was beside herself with worry.

One day, a week or two later, another young man from the neighbourhood announced his intention to move to London.  Mrs Done had known this young man since birth, so she decided to approach him for help. He wasn't the brightest bulb in the candelabra, but beggars can't be choosers.

"When you get to London, would you please see if you can find my Neil for me?" She beseeched him. "I haven't heard a thing from him except for the one letter that he sent me the first week he arrived. I haven't a clue where he is, but the the postmark on the letter is London W1."

The young man promised to do his best.

Presently, after a long, hot train journey, the young man found himself on the platform of a huge station. Feeling the need to attend to a call of nature, he made his way to the men's toilets.

Once inside the toilets he noticed that the first stall had WC1 in bold brass letters on the door. Remembering his promise, he tried the handle, but the door was locked.

"Is there anyone in there?"

"Yes"

"Are you Neil Done?"

"Yes, but there's no paper"

"Well that's no excuse for not to writing to your mother in six months, you heartless bastard".
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« Reply #18 on: January 19, 2011, 11:48:28 AM »

rofl Red, if you made that up or read it somewhere, that's brilliant!
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« Reply #19 on: January 19, 2011, 12:13:33 PM »

I've wondered this for a while Camel; big winning gamblers in the UK- how do they do it when winning accounts become restricted; in some cases quite rapidly?

Is it just the same way as in the vid with runners doing the betting? or mainly betting in several different shops(which = less value generally)?

Read the book "Enemy Number One" by Patrick Veitch,

It really is a great insight into the tactics of a big punter, the trouble he has getting on and how he beats the bookmakers.
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« Reply #20 on: January 19, 2011, 12:24:50 PM »

Nice link thanks.......
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« Reply #21 on: January 19, 2011, 01:17:11 PM »

Fred Done advert is priceless.

Someone please ring them in March and ask for £200 on a 10-1 shot in the Eurovision. See what comes back.
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« Reply #22 on: January 19, 2011, 01:58:03 PM »

I've wondered this for a while Camel; big winning gamblers in the UK- how do they do it when winning accounts become restricted; in some cases quite rapidly?

Is it just the same way as in the vid with runners doing the betting? or mainly betting in several different shops(which = less value generally)?

Read the book "Enemy Number One" by Patrick Veitch,

It really is a great insight into the tactics of a big punter, the trouble he has getting on and how he beats the bookmakers.

Cheers for the tip Keith; looks a great read
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« Reply #23 on: January 19, 2011, 05:05:53 PM »

Very interesting Keith. Thanks for posting.

Walters is a fascinating character and every US facing bookie is petrified of him yet this is the first time I have ever seen him interviewed.  It does seem to me that he seems to have editorial control over this interview though.  There is a much darker and very ruthless side to him from what I understand especially in the way he came to have control over all of the information and algorithms he uses.

For those that want an autobiography he hasn't wriiten one but a guy that used to move money for him has and it is called "The Smart Money" by, I think, Michael Konik.  It is not a great book in my view but is interesting enough.  Also if you do a google search for "the story of the computer group" it does a good job of putting otgether Walters early days and the trial for bookmaking.
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« Reply #24 on: January 19, 2011, 05:15:27 PM »

Very interesting Keith. Thanks for posting.

Walters is a fascinating character and every US facing bookie is petrified of him yet this is the first time I have ever seen him interviewed.  It does seem to me that he seems to have editorial control over this interview though.  There is a much darker and very ruthless side to him from what I understand especially in the way he came to have control over all of the information and algorithms he uses.

For those that want an autobiography he hasn't wriiten one but a guy that used to move money for him has and it is called "The Smart Money" by, I think, Michael Konik.  It is not a great book in my view but is interesting enough.  Also if you do a google search for "the story of the computer group" it does a good job of putting otgether Walters early days and the trial for bookmaking.

Excellent - thanks!
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« Reply #25 on: February 05, 2011, 06:52:52 AM »

FWIW I understand that this guy has bet the Packers for the Superbowl at -2.5 5/6.  Caveat is that he has been known to send money on the other team to create a market for himself but given the bet sizes taken on SB I would imagine that is the side that he likes.
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« Reply #26 on: February 05, 2011, 06:54:27 AM »

Hills are -2.5 10/11 which I really cannot imagine will last.
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« Reply #27 on: January 25, 2012, 01:20:52 AM »

Bumped for all the new posters on here.

Definitely worth watching the link.
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« Reply #28 on: January 25, 2012, 01:22:16 AM »

ha, forgot about scottish dave!
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« Reply #29 on: January 25, 2012, 06:43:11 AM »


I do not usually much like bumps, as mostly they are bumped for the wrong, or mischievious reasons, but that is a quality bump, Keith.

Interesting to read the comments in there, from a year back. My, what a difference a year makes.

I reckon you should start a Diary on blonde instead of re-starting your Blog. I could GUARANTEE you'd get more hits, because I would tweet it & FB it, & I have quite a few thousand "followers & friends".
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