Help please - correct line?

[Nakor]

The below hand seems to devide opinion, mainly my opinion and everyone else's

I am aware my actual actions were incorrect, but it seems if I was to play this again I would take a different line to some - and I do fear it means one of my fundemental principles of the game is floored, so I seek help.

What should be my line?  All opinions welcomed.

We are down to 19, villian and I have not clashed previously and he has only been on my table for 20 hands or so after a rebalance.

Full Tilt Poker Game #27336327014: Super Stack $10K Guarantee (212120630), Table 1 - 6000/12000 Ante 1500 - No Limit Hold'em
Seat 1: AquaeSulis (282,976)
Seat 2: ISMOOKING (459,238)
Seat 3: Hero (395,522)
Seat 5: Seby95 (244,519)
Seat 6: Villian (436,924)
Seat 7: labrocks (1,275,921)
Seat 9: semi_deja_vu (412,698)
AquaeSulis antes 1,500
ISMOOKING antes 1,500
Hero antes 1,500
Seby95 antes 1,500
Villian antes 1,500
labrocks antes 1,500
semi_deja_vu antes 1,500
Seby95 posts the small blind of 6,000
Villian posts the big blind of 12,000
The button is in seat #3
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [ ]
labrocks folds
semi_deja_vu folds
AquaeSulis folds
ISMOOKING folds
Hero ? ? ? ? ?

[boldie]

Hero 30K

[EvilPie]

Flawed*

[GreekStein]

26.5k, then jam if 3-bet or call if jammed on.

[kinboshi]

Flawed*

Floored works quite well too though. In an Audrey Harrison way.

[kinboshi]

26.5k, then jam if 3-bet or call if jammed on.

Obviously opening from the button means the Hero's range is pretty wide - but what does the BB 3-bet jam with here that we snap-call with?  With some history and knowledge of the player the call might be trivial, but without this is it still a snap-call?

If we were in EP and bet 30K, and then he 3-bets us, what's your line then?

[boldie]

26.5k, then jam if 3-bet or call if jammed on.

Obviously opening from the button means the Hero's range is pretty wide - but what does the BB 3-bet jam with here that we snap-call with?  With some history and knowledge of the player the call might be trivial, but without this is it still a snap-call?

I would say so, Yes. your opening range can be perceived as wide as it's a button raise so he can 3 bet/shove light. Having AQ makes it a pretty standard call then as you're ahead of his range.

Leaving your other question as it's much trickier and not really relevant to this hand.

[ACE2M]

26.5k, then jam if 3-bet or call if jammed on.

i generally agree with this but what about a min raise 3 bet for example? any difference of thought?

[GreekStein]

26.5k, then jam if 3-bet or call if jammed on.

Obviously opening from the button means the Hero's range is pretty wide - but what does the BB 3-bet jam with here that we snap-call with?  With some history and knowledge of the player the call might be trivial, but without this is it still a snap-call?

If we were in EP and bet 30K, and then he 3-bets us, what's your line then?

thats a completely different scenario Darny Pheyleaps.

Range to 3-bet button open is much wider than any other position.

[pleno1]

26.5k, then jam if 3-bet or call if jammed on.

this.

[kinboshi]

26.5k, then jam if 3-bet or call if jammed on.

Obviously opening from the button means the Hero's range is pretty wide - but what does the BB 3-bet jam with here that we snap-call with?  With some history and knowledge of the player the call might be trivial, but without this is it still a snap-call?

If we were in EP and bet 30K, and then he 3-bets us, what's your line then?

thats a completely different scenario Darny Pheyleaps.

Range to 3-bet button open is much wider than any other position.

I know, that's why I mentioned it.  What would your line be?

[GreekStein]

26.5k, then jam if 3-bet or call if jammed on.

Obviously opening from the button means the Hero's range is pretty wide - but what does the BB 3-bet jam with here that we snap-call with?  With some history and knowledge of the player the call might be trivial, but without this is it still a snap-call?

If we were in EP and bet 30K, and then he 3-bets us, what's your line then?

thats a completely different scenario Darny Pheyleaps.

Range to 3-bet button open is much wider than any other position.

I know, that's why I mentioned it.  What would your line be?

Depends on the opener. If it's Moorman or Railtard I'm jamming, if it's you I try my best to split the muck in half.

[boldie]

26.5k, then jam if 3-bet or call if jammed on.

Obviously opening from the button means the Hero's range is pretty wide - but what does the BB 3-bet jam with here that we snap-call with?  With some history and knowledge of the player the call might be trivial, but without this is it still a snap-call?

If we were in EP and bet 30K, and then he 3-bets us, what's your line then?

thats a completely different scenario Darny Pheyleaps.

Range to 3-bet button open is much wider than any other position.

I know, that's why I mentioned it.  What would your line be?

Depends on the opener. If it's Moorman or Railtard I'm jamming, if it's you I try my best to split the muck in half.

very well said

[kinboshi]

26.5k, then jam if 3-bet or call if jammed on.

Obviously opening from the button means the Hero's range is pretty wide - but what does the BB 3-bet jam with here that we snap-call with?  With some history and knowledge of the player the call might be trivial, but without this is it still a snap-call?

If we were in EP and bet 30K, and then he 3-bets us, what's your line then?

thats a completely different scenario Darny Pheyleaps.

Range to 3-bet button open is much wider than any other position.

I know, that's why I mentioned it.  What would your line be?

Depends on the opener. If it's Moorman or Railtard I'm jamming, if it's you I try my best to split the muck in half.

No, you don't know the other player.  Same as in the OP.  The only difference is your position.

[Rupert]

Well preflops clearly an open so anything from 24k-30k is fine depending on how wide you are opening and what your perceived image is