Andy Gray Sacked

[outragous76]

I really think it's time that we moved football on and replaced Andy Gray with a woman

[Laxie]

I really think it's time that we moved football on and replaced Andy Gray with a woman

OK, who's hacked Guy's account?   

[mouth]

I really think it's time that we moved football on and replaced Andy Gray with a woman

No I disagree. Football is a man's world.

He should be replaced by a younger, fitter bloke. Wearing just pants. Preferably something that looks a little like Heath Ledger (before he died obv) or Anthony keidis.

Just any fit bloke wearing pants IMO.

[the sicilian]

Whole thing is ridic.. First of all the comments were not broadcast on television..are we not allowed our own private opinions and thoughts any more? not one of us can say we have never made unworthy comments in private... and that goes for women to who can be far harsher than any man could imagine.. its obv okay for women to go on telly and belittle men' cos its funny'.

As for the other incident just lol..the woman just brushed it off as usual soppy old cock being cheeky.. if he'd been a fit young bloke she'd be lapping it up... and lets face it she has used her looks and sexuality to get the job in the first place..double standards as usual.

As for sian the linesman I have nothing but admiration for the girl...shes got more balls than most blokes i know, running that line with 25000 brummies screaming abuse at her when she gave that excellent ruling for the Liverpool goal... would love a mike on that crowd behind her who thought it was offside..did the police arrest anyone in that crowd?.. i bet the abuse was horrific...

Just sigh at this country..everyone throwing their toys out the pram over private throwaway comments but its okay to let terrorists and, rapists and murders roam the land....some people need to get a thing called perspective...

[outragous76]

Great post sicili, but this made me laugh (not for the 1st time in this thread either)

As for sian the linesman

[the sicilian]

Great post sicili, but this made me laugh (not for the 1st time in this thread either)

As for sian the linesman

Its like postman innit.... but think shes a top girl tbh....good luck to her

[Acidmouse]

As for the other incident just lol..the woman just brushed it off as usual soppy old cock being cheeky.. if he'd been a fit young bloke she'd be lapping it up... and lets face it she has used her looks and sexuality to get the job in the first place..double standards as usual.

If she had made a fuss about it what would have happened? its like the whistle blowers they get more crap for reporting something than the person who did it. Gray was an established star on the channel, she thought it was most probably not worth it and would have had a negative effect on her and her career at the channel. No one likes to grass (unless its done anon like it seems was done to Gray).

The women I know wouldn't 'lap' anything up from work colleagues suggesting they tuck their bits in for them however 'fit' or 'age' the man was. If someone said that to my wife or Mum they would get a slap end of. Its easy to laugh it off but in any company that's a sacking offence and rightly so, I dont see what the fuss over this was, it is cut and dry. Gray most probably got away with this type of behaviour for a long time and people accepted it as a joke, but I can guarantee most didn't find it funny especially the people it was directed at.

[sledge13]

Whole thing is ridic.. First of all the comments were not broadcast on television..are we not allowed our own private opinions and thoughts any more? not one of us can say we have never made unworthy comments in private... and that goes for women to who can be far harsher than any man could imagine.. its obv okay for women to go on telly and belittle men' cos its funny'.

As for the other incident just lol..the woman just brushed it off as usual soppy old cock being cheeky.. if he'd been a fit young bloke she'd be lapping it up... and lets face it she has used her looks and sexuality to get the job in the first place..double standards as usual.

As for sian the linesman I have nothing but admiration for the girl...shes got more balls than most blokes i know, running that line with 25000 brummies screaming abuse at her when she gave that excellent ruling for the Liverpool goal... would love a mike on that crowd behind her who thought it was offside..did the police arrest anyone in that crowd?.. i bet the abuse was horrific...

Just sigh at this country..everyone throwing their toys out the pram over private throwaway comments but its okay to let terrorists and, rapists and murders roam the land....some people need to get a thing called perspective...

NAIL ON HEAD

[the sicilian]

A lot of people need to get a life then...as they will spend most of their waking life being offended..

[Acidmouse]

A lot of people need to get a life then...as they will spend most of their waking life being offended..

I think their is a huge difference between making jokes privately to asking someone to tuck you bits in for them infront of work collegues? or am I mad here?

[remf]

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/capisce

Did you mean this ^^ ?

Twisting your own words now

Mea culpa  (sp?)

[Jon MW]

As for the other incident just lol..the woman just brushed it off as usual soppy old cock being cheeky.. if he'd been a fit young bloke she'd be lapping it up... and lets face it she has used her looks and sexuality to get the job in the first place..double standards as usual.

If she had made a fuss about it what would have happened? its like the whistle blowers they get more crap for reporting something than the person who did it. Gray was an established star on the channel, she thought it was most probably not worth it and would have had a negative effect on her and her career at the channel. No one likes to grass (unless its done anon like it seems was done to Gray).

The women I know wouldn't 'lap' anything up from work colleagues suggesting they tuck their bits in for them however 'fit' or 'age' the man was. If someone said that to my wife or Mum they would get a slap end of. Its easy to laugh it off but in any company that's a sacking offence and rightly so, I dont see what the fuss over this was, it is cut and dry. Gray most probably got away with this type of behaviour for a long time and people accepted it as a joke, but I can guarantee most didn't find it funny especially the people it was directed at.

The managing director of a firm of lawyers I used to work out got sacked for a similar comment to one of his colleagues - so losing your job for it seems to be pretty standard.


also

Whole thing is ridic.. First of all the comments were not broadcast on television..are we not allowed our own private opinions and thoughts any more? not one of us can say we have never made unworthy comments in private... ..

If you're at home, it's in private

If you're at work - it's public

[Woodsey]

As for the other incident just lol..the woman just brushed it off as usual soppy old cock being cheeky.. if he'd been a fit young bloke she'd be lapping it up... and lets face it she has used her looks and sexuality to get the job in the first place..double standards as usual.

If she had made a fuss about it what would have happened? its like the whistle blowers they get more crap for reporting something than the person who did it. Gray was an established star on the channel, she thought it was most probably not worth it and would have had a negative effect on her and her career at the channel. No one likes to grass (unless its done anon like it seems was done to Gray).

The women I know wouldn't 'lap' anything up from work colleagues suggesting they tuck their bits in for them however 'fit' or 'age' the man was. If someone said that to my wife or Mum they would get a slap end of. Its easy to laugh it off but in any company that's a sacking offence and rightly so, I dont see what the fuss over this was, it is cut and dry. Gray most probably got away with this type of behaviour for a long time and people accepted it as a joke, but I can guarantee most didn't find it funny especially the people it was directed at.

The managing director of a firm of lawyers I used to work out got sacked for a similar comment to one of his colleagues - so losing your job for it seems to be pretty standard.


also

Whole thing is ridic.. First of all the comments were not broadcast on television..are we not allowed our own private opinions and thoughts any more? not one of us can say we have never made unworthy comments in private... ..

If you're at home, it's in private

If you're at work - it's public

+1

In my profession you would be very lucky not to lose your job for what he said to that presenter. Anyone with half a brain knows that you just cannot say that in a professional working environment with a respectable company. Anyone who dismisses this obviously clearly has no clue about how people should be treated............

[the sicilian]

A lot of people need to get a life then...as they will spend most of their waking life being offended..

I think their is a huge difference between making jokes privately to asking someone to tuck you bits in for them infront of work collegues? or am I mad here?

Then she should report him there and then..and he can be disciplined accordingly...losing your livelihood over it seems a bit Draconian..that's why you have warnings...obviously she was a lot less offended than some others..

[Jon MW]

A lot of people need to get a life then...as they will spend most of their waking life being offended..

I think their is a huge difference between making jokes privately to asking someone to tuck you bits in for them infront of work collegues? or am I mad here?

Then she should report him there and then..and he can be disciplined accordingly...losing your livelihood over it seems a bit Draconian..that's why you have warnings...obviously she was a lot less offended than some others..

How offended she was is irrelevant

As has already been mentioned whistle-blowers tend to get a hard time so it's not uncommon for homophobic, racist and sexist behaviour to not get reported by the recipients of it.