Andy Gray Sacked

[nirvana]

The 'it' thing is definitely a bit sick and not nice to hear.

Would tend to think anyone using this terminlogy about a person probably a budding offender or suffering hugely with esteem issues

[Woodsey]

The 'it' thing is definitely a bit sick and not nice to hear.

Would tend to think anyone using this terminlogy about a person probably a budding offender or suffering hugely with esteem issues

Tbh I think the phrase 'would you smash it' and similar is just a phrase that has crept in and stuck, rather than a deliberate attempt to demean women and call them 'it'.

[Robert HM]

It seems people cant have a private convo now without the thought police coming down on them.... i mean theres never been a convo between a couple of women like this :

did you fuck that John the other night ?
yep
bet you loved that horny bastard hanging out the back of you?
yeah it was ok but his cock was a bit small

( girls roll about laughing )

can't speak for anyone else, obviously, but for me it's the objectifying of the women being spoken about in cases like this that makes me cringe.  see it on the forum now and again too - it's wound me up but there's no point commenting on it and enduring a backlash.  'hanging out of her' or 'smashing her', although not the nicest turns of phrase, are head and shoulders above 'hanging out of it' and 'smashing it'

maybe i'm naive, but there seems to be a suggestion on this thread that all men refer to women in that manner when talking among themselves.  I'm pretty sure that's not the case.

I'd say a majority talk like this, not all but def a majority.

Well I know I am not normal in so many ways and think I can claim to be in your minority, however this may be one of those rare cases where your majority is smaller than the minority. (Cliff - your wrong)

[DaveShoelace]

It seems people cant have a private convo now without the thought police coming down on them.... i mean theres never been a convo between a couple of women like this :

did you fuck that John the other night ?
yep
bet you loved that horny bastard hanging out the back of you?
yeah it was ok but his cock was a bit small

( girls roll about laughing )

you've obviously never been to Barnsley

[Woodsey]

It seems people cant have a private convo now without the thought police coming down on them.... i mean theres never been a convo between a couple of women like this :

did you fuck that John the other night ?
yep
bet you loved that horny bastard hanging out the back of you?
yeah it was ok but his cock was a bit small

( girls roll about laughing )

can't speak for anyone else, obviously, but for me it's the objectifying of the women being spoken about in cases like this that makes me cringe.  see it on the forum now and again too - it's wound me up but there's no point commenting on it and enduring a backlash.  'hanging out of her' or 'smashing her', although not the nicest turns of phrase, are head and shoulders above 'hanging out of it' and 'smashing it'

maybe i'm naive, but there seems to be a suggestion on this thread that all men refer to women in that manner when talking among themselves.  I'm pretty sure that's not the case.

I'd say a majority talk like this, not all but def a majority.

Well I know I am not normal in so many ways and think I can claim to be in your minority, however this may be one of those rare cases where your majority is smaller than the minority. (Cliff - your wrong)

I hear people say it all the time, in the 40 and younger group its is def the majority.........

[outragous76]

Can people who don't believe groups of young lads out on the pull refer to girls in ways which their mothers wouldn't appreciate please wake up!

And can those who don't think girls might do the same in drunken female company do the same please!

Kthxbye!

[Claw75]

Can people who don't believe groups of young lads out on the pull refer to girls in ways which their mothers wouldn't appreciate please wake up!

And can those who don't think girls might do the same in drunken female company do the same please!

Kthxbye!

no one's saying they don't believe it - we see it/hear it often and no one here lives in a bubble.  it's the suggestion that it's 'the norm' among a majority, and therefore should be considered acceptable, that's being questioned.

[Robert HM]

It seems people cant have a private convo now without the thought police coming down on them.... i mean theres never been a convo between a couple of women like this :

did you fuck that John the other night ?
yep
bet you loved that horny bastard hanging out the back of you?
yeah it was ok but his cock was a bit small

( girls roll about laughing )

can't speak for anyone else, obviously, but for me it's the objectifying of the women being spoken about in cases like this that makes me cringe.  see it on the forum now and again too - it's wound me up but there's no point commenting on it and enduring a backlash.  'hanging out of her' or 'smashing her', although not the nicest turns of phrase, are head and shoulders above 'hanging out of it' and 'smashing it'

maybe i'm naive, but there seems to be a suggestion on this thread that all men refer to women in that manner when talking among themselves.  I'm pretty sure that's not the case.

I'd say a majority talk like this, not all but def a majority.

Well I know I am not normal in so many ways and think I can claim to be in your minority, however this may be one of those rare cases where your majority is smaller than the minority. (Cliff - your wrong)

I hear people say it all the time, in the 40 and younger group its is def the majority......... You're  old, what do you know!?

FYP

[Woodsey]

It seems people cant have a private convo now without the thought police coming down on them.... i mean theres never been a convo between a couple of women like this :

did you fuck that John the other night ?
yep
bet you loved that horny bastard hanging out the back of you?
yeah it was ok but his cock was a bit small

( girls roll about laughing )

can't speak for anyone else, obviously, but for me it's the objectifying of the women being spoken about in cases like this that makes me cringe.  see it on the forum now and again too - it's wound me up but there's no point commenting on it and enduring a backlash.  'hanging out of her' or 'smashing her', although not the nicest turns of phrase, are head and shoulders above 'hanging out of it' and 'smashing it'

maybe i'm naive, but there seems to be a suggestion on this thread that all men refer to women in that manner when talking among themselves.  I'm pretty sure that's not the case.

I'd say a majority talk like this, not all but def a majority.

Well I know I am not normal in so many ways and think I can claim to be in your minority, however this may be one of those rare cases where your majority is smaller than the minority. (Cliff - your wrong)

I hear people say it all the time, in the 40 and younger group its is def the majority......... You're  old, what do you know!?

FYP

I ain't young mate, but even amongst my age group I hear it lots, and the people I hang with are all sensible professionals, not random fuckwits.

[MANTIS01]

Richard Keys would not have asked Redknapp if he smashed his current wife. When men talk about meaningless casual sex it is common for them to objectify the process. It's not really anything to do with the woman herself which they prob don't know anything about personally, and it's not anything to do with damaging a woman's progress in the workplace or respecting her rights. It's about the carnal thoughts of loveless sex. If a woman or for that matter a man indulges in emotionless shagging I don't know why they demand the right to retain the respect of everybody who hears about it. To be branded a sexist for such comments is ridiculous.

[Div]

Judging by the coverage on the non-sports pages the sexism stuff was just an opportune reason to get rid of them.

Some of the bullying stuff that's been claimed is disgusting. If true, the new Sky Sports Chief Exec deserves a lot of credit for removing the poison ruthlessly.

[Eck]

Call centre been busy this week with complaints.

Have heard of conversations starting like this: "I want to cancel and I don't want to speak to b****y woman!" 

[The Baron]

Richard Keys would not have asked Redknapp if he smashed his current wife. When men talk about meaningless casual sex it is common for them to objectify the process. It's not really anything to do with the woman herself which they prob don't know anything about personally, and it's not anything to do with damaging a woman's progress in the workplace or respecting her rights. It's about the carnal thoughts of loveless sex. If a woman or for that matter a man indulges in emotionless shagging I don't know why they demand the right to retain the respect of everybody who hears about it. To be branded a sexist for such comments is ridiculous.

If more men didn't have this attitude more women would be open to casual sex. Thanks !

[sovietsong]

Call centre been busy this week with complaints.

Have heard of conversations starting like this: "I want to cancel and I don't want to speak to b****y woman!" 

When I worked at the call centre at the bank an old fella rang up and spoke to one of my female colleagues. He was shocked that a woman worked at the bank and demanded to speak to a man.

The girls manager was a woman as was her manager, after speaking to both and him using some inappropriate language we closed his accounts.

[Matt.NFFC.]

Can people who don't believe groups of young lads out on the pull refer to girls in ways which their mothers wouldn't appreciate please wake up!

And can those who don't think girls might do the same in drunken female company do the same please!

Kthxbye!

no one's saying they don't believe it - we see it/hear it often and no one here lives in a bubble.  it's the suggestion that it's 'the norm' among a majority, and therefore should be considered acceptable, that's being questioned.

I would say that it is the majority......our lot use this term all the time.....not proud of the fact, but the phrase "smash it" has been used for years, prior to that it was "nail" "barrell" etc etc

This is only used in lads talk and happens up and down the land I'm afraid.  You don't honestly think guys say stuff like " Hi mate, did you make love to the pretty girl last night" do you?