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« Reply #90 on: January 29, 2011, 07:34:27 PM »

i'll be honest and say i don't want to stake you to play the whole lot in one game. It's a bit nuts, its not like a tournament with massive potential returns.

can you engineer a few matches of between £100-£200 just to get yourself used to the pressure?

when i used to play it took me quite a while to be able play with fluidity in big games.


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« Reply #91 on: January 29, 2011, 07:48:13 PM »

go to china and train some kids up imo
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« Reply #92 on: January 29, 2011, 08:37:00 PM »

How much do cue.tv give the players for appearing on tv?
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« Reply #93 on: January 29, 2011, 09:19:08 PM »

i'll be honest and say i don't want to stake you to play the whole lot in one game. It's a bit nuts, its not like a tournament with massive potential returns.

can you engineer a few matches of between £100-£200 just to get yourself used to the pressure?

when i used to play it took me quite a while to be able play with fluidity in big games.




I won't be playing the whole lot in one game. That is a dumb thing to do. I might as well be asked to spunk it all on Red and hope it comes in.

I have a few games engineered already against opponents who I should be better than 50/50 against. First one that is guaranteed on is in 3 weeks time - February 19th at Wakefield. It is more than £200 but I'm actually only putting £50 more on myself than I did in that match as I staked myself for the full £200.

I have thought about how much %age I should take and maybe if you doing it as a group I should take less myself. I will pay all interested 70% on top of stakeback instead of 50%.
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« Reply #94 on: January 29, 2011, 09:20:12 PM »

How much do cue.tv give the players for appearing on tv?

There's no appearance fees unfortunately. If only... :-)
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« Reply #95 on: January 29, 2011, 10:30:18 PM »

Why are you so against playing for whole roll Fugly? You realize if you are like an 80% fav it's almost criminal not to wager it all.

Either you ain't as good as you say
Or you have no idea about gambling

I assume it's the latter which is worrying but rectifiable. In life people don't have many opportunities to double their money as a significant favorite and when they do fs retarded to compare it to.a 48% shot in roulette
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« Reply #96 on: January 29, 2011, 10:36:35 PM »

Why are you so against playing for whole roll Fugly? You realize if you are like an 80% fav it's almost criminal not to wager it all.

Either you ain't as good as you say
Or you have no idea about gambling

I assume it's the latter which is worrying but rectifiable. In life people don't have many opportunities to double their money as a significant favorite and when they do fs retarded to compare it to.a 48% shot in roulette

but we don't know if he is 80% fav or not
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« Reply #97 on: January 29, 2011, 10:37:58 PM »

No but surely that's what he is saying in the opening post?
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« Reply #98 on: January 29, 2011, 10:39:54 PM »

Well the comment about playing guys you "should be better than 50/50 against" is a bit worrying too.

Hopefully you're just being modest or subtle in an open forum  Smiley  You need to be the one with the most info or you're gonna get stitched up!
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« Reply #99 on: January 30, 2011, 05:11:28 AM »

Dubai

I don't recall at any point saying that I was a world class cueist! Compared to the population yes I'm a good player. And I can hold my own against most players.

If I am any of the options then I'm closer to having 'no idea about gambling'. I'm trying to treat this as a business, and unless the guy I'm against can't hold a cue straight or misses things over bags, I will not gamble everything when one half wanting to back me wish me to use only a %age.

What you possibly forget too, is that say I put in your total of £500 or £625 I am matching that full amount in the first place. It's meant to be a medium to long term investment with me winning amounts over time and building the pot up.

However, if you want to do an individual thing where you put me against one of your fish mates who can't hold a cue then I tell you what I'll do. You cover my expenses to get to wherever for the game, you back me for full extent with none of my own money at risk, I'll take 20% of winnings you take the rest. But I want a medium length race to eliminate any freak luck. Something like race to 13 9-ball. Sounds about right, if they that crap I'll be done between an hour to 90 minutes.

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It is part modesty but also part keeping in tune with my mindset. Once a match has been agreed I have to treat the game seriously as if they have as much chance to beat me as I do of beating them. Only a fool goes into a pool match thinking that he cannot possibly lose. Many class players have lost with that attitude, so it is my way of staying in control of things. I practise better, I feel more energy and as a result play better by giving my opponent respect (whether they are shit or not they've stumped up cash for me to take!)

I hope that this makes sense to you. As far as most pool players go I can get the information to tell me if its a game I 'should' win or if it's closer to evens. 'Should' - meaning that if I turn up and don't piss about then the money is mine to take.
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« Reply #100 on: January 30, 2011, 07:01:09 AM »

How much do cue.tv give the players for appearing on tv?

There's no appearance fees unfortunately. If only... :-)

What's the point of playing on tv then?

Sufrely you want hide the fact you're a good player as long as possible?
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« Reply #101 on: January 30, 2011, 07:47:21 AM »

How much do cue.tv give the players for appearing on tv?

There's no appearance fees unfortunately. If only... :-)

What's the point of playing on tv then?

Sufrely you want hide the fact you're a good player as long as possible?

It's just an internet stream, rather than anything else.

You wouldn't believe the amount of challenges people get because they watch thinking "this guys a chump, I can beat him" then they end up on there losing themselselves. It's not popular to the extent that everyone will know who I am. The actual likelyhood of me being on the camera table anyway is minimal as the elitist viewers like to see only the top boys in action while everyone else gets ignored.
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« Reply #102 on: January 30, 2011, 12:10:41 PM »

Vegaslover, it was only when I played Daz that I was trembling. He is my favourite player so to play him was an unusual experience. As soon as I got a couple of racks early I was fine.

Let me please say I know beating Daz off +6 means nothing. Even beating him off +1 doesn't count because his aim is to just level the match. Can't think of winning until he has done so. But it's just to give people an idea that against the players who I look up to, I am not fazed and I can play fairly decently. In the money games I just have a massive rush of adrenaline in first few racks, then calm it down and get into stroke but no wobbly knees. Even a bout of sickness didn't stop me from playing well in a match.

I wasn't looking for stakes in tournaments, but the expense for the GB9 Tour is massive (partly why I'm not bothering as no value for money). Fees for the Challenge Tour are £595 for 4 events, plus £78 hotels, and rip off prices for food and travel. Pro Division I think is a lot higher around £750-£800 then same exe's on top.

If I'm playing a one off money match for say £250 and above - which a few challenges have been issued to me  -  then I'm spending probably £30 on fuel and drinks to the driver, and money for a hotel or finding someone I know to stay with. The expenses aren't cheap but much better than an overnight tournament and the reward is instant and a lot higher.

Theres a bloke I've played approximately 15 times who has never beat me, and every time says 'one day I'll beat you, I got your number'. He wants to play me for £500 a man but wants a race to 100 which is stupid. But there are enough games like that going around in Leicester, and if Dubai has some rich and stupid mates then even better!

Is this standard pool terminology?
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« Reply #103 on: January 30, 2011, 12:35:26 PM »

Vegaslover, it was only when I played Daz that I was trembling. He is my favourite player so to play him was an unusual experience. As soon as I got a couple of racks early I was fine.

Let me please say I know beating Daz off +6 means nothing. Even beating him off +1 doesn't count because his aim is to just level the match. Can't think of winning until he has done so. But it's just to give people an idea that against the players who I look up to, I am not fazed and I can play fairly decently. In the money games I just have a massive rush of adrenaline in first few racks, then calm it down and get into stroke but no wobbly knees. Even a bout of sickness didn't stop me from playing well in a match.

I wasn't looking for stakes in tournaments, but the expense for the GB9 Tour is massive (partly why I'm not bothering as no value for money). Fees for the Challenge Tour are £595 for 4 events, plus £78 hotels, and rip off prices for food and travel. Pro Division I think is a lot higher around £750-£800 then same exe's on top.

If I'm playing a one off money match for say £250 and above - which a few challenges have been issued to me  -  then I'm spending probably £30 on fuel and drinks to the driver, and money for a hotel or finding someone I know to stay with. The expenses aren't cheap but much better than an overnight tournament and the reward is instant and a lot higher.

Theres a bloke I've played approximately 15 times who has never beat me, and every time says 'one day I'll beat you, I got your number'. He wants to play me for £500 a man but wants a race to 100 which is stupid. But there are enough games like that going around in Leicester, and if Dubai has some rich and stupid mates then even better!

Is this standard pool terminology?

Oh yes, putting your shaft on a butt is standard. Putting your balls on the table is standard too. Would someone like to try my shaft? I like a hard tip.

All standard stuff haha Smiley
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« Reply #104 on: January 30, 2011, 05:08:55 PM »

George and Fugly get yourselves over to Rileys Nottingham not Leicesteurrrggghh

Me and Ralph will come and beat you

First money match is on!

Nob off Popkin. Leicester FTW. Have to travel to Notts enough as it is
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