generally awful?

[ACE2M]

Is the flat pre so tez? The oppo did his nut, seemed fine to me.

Full Tilt Poker Game #27718358172: $45,000 Guarantee (215189940), Table 128 - 150/300 Ante 25 - No Limit Hold'em - 15:28:20 ET - 2011/01/29
Seat 1: ace2m (3,380)
Seat 2: JimmyCi (14,243)
Seat 3: rbeckwith (20,961)
Seat 4: headbang (19,297)
Seat 6: Lilla82 (9,419)
ace2m antes 25
JimmyCi antes 25
rbeckwith antes 25
headbang antes 25
Lilla82 antes 25
Lilla82 posts the big blind of 300
The button is in seat #4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ace2m [ ]
ace2m raises to 666
JimmyCi folds
rbeckwith raises to 1,032
headbang folds
Lilla82 folds
ace2m calls 366
*** FLOP *** [ ]
ace2m checks
rbeckwith bets 1,200
ace2m raises to 2,323, and is all in
rbeckwith calls 1,123
ace2m shows [ ]
rbeckwith shows [ ]
*** TURN *** [ ] []
*** RIVER *** [ ] []
ace2m shows a full house, Sixes full of Queens
rbeckwith shows two pair, Queens and Sixes
ace2m wins the pot (7,135) with a full house, Sixes full of Queens
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 7,135 | Rake 0
Board: [ ]
Seat 1: ace2m showed [ ] and won (7,135) with a full house, Sixes full of Queens
Seat 2: JimmyCi folded before the Flop
Seat 3: rbeckwith showed [ ] and lost with two pair, Queens and Sixes
Seat 4: headbang (button) folded before the Flop
Seat 6: Lilla82 (big blind) folded before the Flop

[action man]

his raise 3bet size is tez, probs misclick. Opening and not jamming pre is pretty bad 6max with 11bb

I take it your raise/folding?

[ACE2M]

his raise 3bet size is tez, probs misclick. Opening and not jamming pre is pretty bad 6max with 11bb

I take it your raise/folding?

i was but his 3 bet is so puny i have to call?

[titaniumbean]

fold pre wtf.

[redarmi]

Yeah just shove pre when you are opening but you have to call his reraise because like you say it is so puny.  You are getting over 5-1.  It is impossible you are 5-1 v his range so....

[SuuPRlim]

I wouldnt shove, but im a nit
Id fold

[titaniumbean]

Yeah just shove pre when you are opening but you have to call his reraise because like you say it is so puny.  You are getting over 5-1.  It is impossible you are 5-1 v his range so....

if we don't know what his range is + we have 11 bigs or w/e tiny amount it is I fail to see how we 'have' to call. Calling stack off with any piece is not gonna get us in great spots all the time. Jam or fold pre are only options with that stack imo.

[redarmi]

I agree that you should jam or fold pre but given the action do you fold to the reraise??

[titaniumbean]

I agree that you should jam or fold pre but given the action do you fold to the reraise??

If I call the re-raise it's because i'm annoyed that I opened and I want to make a pair and win the pot. It's not because i'm thinking it's a great spot to be getting money in. We have 11 bigs to start the hand!

[AlexMartin]

hate the 666. like a fold.

[MC]

It's a shove when there is a small blind in play, but you can never open raise here, just fold.

[cambridgealex]

this is a shove or fold, as to which one, I'm not sure - I'm no expert in these matters, but i do know openraising is bad and raise-calling "hoping to flop a pair or a draw" is tez.

[Rupert]

whole hands a trainwreck, many errors got compounded

[ACE2M]

whole hands a trainwreck, many errors got compounded

aye i think so to. I don't feel i have to shove though, i think i can raise fold once before i'm into shoving stack size?

But the def general feeling is to just junk it pre?

[SuuPRlim]

whole hands a trainwreck, many errors got compounded

aye i think so to. I don't feel i have to shove though, i think i can raise fold once before i'm into shoving stack size?

But the def general feeling is to just junk it pre?

you're a shoving stack now