Sorel Mizzi Accused of Cheating at Chinese Poker during PCA

[Woodsey]

This is just what I know of mizzi:

- was banned from ftp for buying an account of someone who was deep in a big tournament.

- a transcript of a conversation between him and another high stakes reg known as 'roman' on 2+2 was leaked. On it mizzi was looking for a backing partner for his idea. He explained this idea saying they would stake a large number of horses and then use software to oversee all of them at once, help make decisions and then take over (without needing to log in from a different machine and hence skipping ip traces) when individuals are deep.

- someone from ftp said that since mizzi was banned they still believed him to be playing on the site under other accounts and believe he even won an ftops.

- mizzi allegedly lost around 500k+ in private hu vs a guy who was cheating him. This was documented on 2+2 thread. (Whilst this doesn't implicate him, it was a bit of a shady game to be involved in).

- then there's this debacle and I even think there may be something else I'm forgetting.

Mmm, I think this new accusation is on a whole new level to the rest. I think muliti accounting whilst illegal is not even close to the same level of cheating and I'm pretty sure many on here have done it tbh. I would not believe the new accusations based just on this............

[smashedagain]

This is just what I know of mizzi:

- was banned from ftp for buying an account of someone who was deep in a big tournament.

- a transcript of a conversation between him and another high stakes reg known as 'roman' on 2+2 was leaked. On it mizzi was looking for a backing partner for his idea. He explained this idea saying they would stake a large number of horses and then use software to oversee all of them at once, help make decisions and then take over (without needing to log in from a different machine and hence skipping ip traces) when individuals are deep.

- someone from ftp said that since mizzi was banned they still believed him to be playing on the site under other accounts and believe he even won an ftops.

- mizzi allegedly lost around 500k+ in private hu vs a guy who was cheating him. This was documented on 2+2 thread. (Whilst this doesn't implicate him, it was a bit of a shady game to be involved in).

- then there's this debacle and I even think there may be something else I'm forgetting.

can this not be done with team viewer and mikagogo cos. i know of a load of chinese kids who do this and the  main reason i dont play the on line stuff full time any more. well its coz i have 3 kids really

[outragous76]

This is just what I know of mizzi:

- was banned from ftp for buying an account of someone who was deep in a big tournament.

- a transcript of a conversation between him and another high stakes reg known as 'roman' on 2+2 was leaked. On it mizzi was looking for a backing partner for his idea. He explained this idea saying they would stake a large number of horses and then use software to oversee all of them at once, help make decisions and then take over (without needing to log in from a different machine and hence skipping ip traces) when individuals are deep.

- someone from ftp said that since mizzi was banned they still believed him to be playing on the site under other accounts and believe he even won an ftops.

- mizzi allegedly lost around 500k+ in private hu vs a guy who was cheating him. This was documented on 2+2 thread. (Whilst this doesn't implicate him, it was a bit of a shady game to be involved in).

- then there's this debacle and I even think there may be something else I'm forgetting.

Mmm, I think this new accusation is on a whole new level to the rest. I think muliti accounting whilst illegal is not even close to the same level of cheating and I'm pretty sure many on here have done it tbh. I would not believe the new accusations based just on this............

names?

[Woodsey]

This is just what I know of mizzi:

- was banned from ftp for buying an account of someone who was deep in a big tournament.

- a transcript of a conversation between him and another high stakes reg known as 'roman' on 2+2 was leaked. On it mizzi was looking for a backing partner for his idea. He explained this idea saying they would stake a large number of horses and then use software to oversee all of them at once, help make decisions and then take over (without needing to log in from a different machine and hence skipping ip traces) when individuals are deep.

- someone from ftp said that since mizzi was banned they still believed him to be playing on the site under other accounts and believe he even won an ftops.

- mizzi allegedly lost around 500k+ in private hu vs a guy who was cheating him. This was documented on 2+2 thread. (Whilst this doesn't implicate him, it was a bit of a shady game to be involved in).

- then there's this debacle and I even think there may be something else I'm forgetting.

Mmm, I think this new accusation is on a whole new level to the rest. I think muliti accounting whilst illegal is not even close to the same level of cheating and I'm pretty sure many on here have done it tbh. I would not believe the new accusations based just on this............

names?

Me........

and yes my second account was banned lol. If I've done it you bet your ass the more serious players than me have.

[paulhouk03]

Oh man I'm not even in the chinese cheating clique FML

[doogan]

did i imagine it or didnt he get exposed for bottom dealing but in his long post never even comments on it just talks about how hes heard others have cheated at chinesse

[SuuPRlim]

MA'ing is as much cheating as any other form of cheating in poker/gambling

for poker to be fair both parties need to have equal information (they may not process it as well, that's part of the skill) if you a) happen to know what the flop will be, or b) have info on someone else's game/tendancies, whilst they have none on you and do not know that you have any on them then the game is unfair and the guy with the advantage is cheating

it's just flat out cheating.

[Woodsey]

MA'ing is as much cheating as any other form of cheating in poker/gambling

for poker to be fair both parties need to have equal information (they may not process it as well, that's part of the skill) if you a) happen to know what the flop will be, or b) have info on someone else's game/tendancies, whilst they have none on you and do not know that you have any on them then the game is unfair and the guy with the advantage is cheating

it's just flat out cheating.

Don't agree at all, there is a massive difference.

What about the various I-poker skins where you can pop up as various aliases on effectively the same site? If it was as serious as you mention those separate skins, or at the least the ability to have an account with more than 1 skin, would have been banned a long, long time ago.

[Doobs]

I realise he has multi accounted in the past, but what makes him more likely to cheat this game than the guy who has been convicted of drink driving 3 times?

[MTT DESTROYER]

They were drinking Kaliber

[smashedagain]

multi entry / multi accounting = similar thing

[outragous76]

multi entry / multi accounting = similar thing

sure is!

[Skgv]

be intersting to hear what john Tabbatatai has to say on these romours as he an sorel were very close friends an still are?

[SuuPRlim]

MA'ing is as much cheating as any other form of cheating in poker/gambling

for poker to be fair both parties need to have equal information (they may not process it as well, that's part of the skill) if you a) happen to know what the flop will be, or b) have info on someone else's game/tendancies, whilst they have none on you and do not know that you have any on them then the game is unfair and the guy with the advantage is cheating

it's just flat out cheating.

Don't agree at all, there is a massive difference.

What about the various I-poker skins where you can pop up as various aliases on effectively the same site? If it was as serious as you mention those separate skins, or at the least the ability to have an account with more than 1 skin, would have been banned a long, long time ago.

Yh its annoying on iPoker, prolly the main reason behind the limited HU cash action

same on the old cake network where you used ot be able to change your SN - the difference is that people know that it's possible I spose.

I mean as someone who's been cheated out of several chunks lifetime from MA'ing and given that I personally have never done it nor would I even consider it I think it's a massive massive deal.

It's as much cheating as anything else imo, spose we'll have to agree to disagree

[SuuPRlim]

multi entry / multi accounting = similar thing

sure is!

and yeah Jason they are completely different not even remotley similar :p