$5/$10 6max

[Mitch]

$5/$10 6max on stars

This hand is from a while ago, came across it when reviewing some HH's, so no reads on players, can assume players at this level are aware of stack sizes and are generally not gonna spew their money off too light. I havent played too much at this level online, so can expect they see me as somebody taking a shot, and was probably only 1 (max 2) tabling at the time.

cutoff ($1,530) opens to $30
button ($985) 3bets to $90
Hero in BB ($700) 4bets to $225

both cutoff and btn call (pot $680)

Flop
 

We have $485 behind.

After we have done a bit of sick in our mouth, we......

[buzzharvey22]

shove

[GreekStein]

Ship obv

[stato_1]

... get our lazy arse out of bed, put on a coat, and head down to DTD. where the flop wouldn't dare come anything other than KJ4 rainbow :p







or shove

[stato_1]

also seeing as u havent got sufficient funds to reload to reloaded to a full stack, quite like a shove pre. Anything else looks ridic strong as u can hardly ever be bluffing with 475 behind, and especially if they see you as taking a shot, min 4 betting looks even stronger.

[cambridgealex]

er play a full stack u numpty? u have to shove here, can't c/f, b/f or do anything else really. could check call i guess. I just dont know what hands these guys will be flatting you with pre assuming they're decent. I guess AA?

[buzzharvey22]

thinking about it, if the original raiser is any good, the only hand he should have here is aces. and flats the cold four trying to induce a button spaz, and get his aces in 3 ways rather than 2 ways. dont think hes ever really expecting button to just flat

[cambridgealex]

must be hard online not being 500bbs deep all the time so that your mad post flop skills can make up for your massive preflop leaks.



(generally, not here)

[stato_1]

must be hard online not being 500bbs deep all the time so that your mad set-flopping skills can make up for your massive preflop leaks.



(generally, not here)

FYP

[Mitch]

I can only presume i didnt have a full stack because i didnt have auto top up on and did some in the previos hand.

Im not really one to shortstack it up 


Should have maybe have added in original post, how you would play this is we covered both villains?

[snoopy1239]

If they're bad enough to be cold-calling four-bets, then they're bad enough to have a wide range here. Q-Q and J-J are obviously a concern, but I'm still shoving.

[Mitch]

If they're bad enough to be cold-calling four-bets, then they're bad enough to have a wide range here. Q-Q and J-J are obviously a concern, but I'm still shoving.

LOL you ninja removed the last post before i could reply to it...

Like buzz says, if the OR is anywhere capable, hes not gonna call a 4 bet when it represents 30% of my stack with mid pairs or connectors. AA is pretty likely and QQ JJ a high percentage.

The overcaller is more likely to possibly have that kind of hand, trying to play for stacks against both of us in position where it looks like we always both have big hands there (unless im making some kind of hero squeeze)

Suppose with my stack size I prob have to just ship it and close my eyes? but there just doesnt seem to be any situations where either they both fold or i get called and am not crushed. If im up against an AK im expecting a ship pre, especially vs my stack size, and neither can (or should)ever really have AQ here either IMO.

Interested to get views if i was covering...

[GreekStein]

What were you eating at the time?

[Mitch]

What were you eating at the time?

Turkish Delight

[boldie]

Meh,,,,anyone in favour of check calling here? Obv our line already screams monster but I just can't see them calling with anything we beat and maybe, just maybe one of them can bet into us with something weaker...if they are completely thick OBV.

AA/JJ and QQ are out here a massive amount of the time I reckon