150 pound max sit down

[pleno1]

Today is Thursday. Not any particular Thursday though, this is the last Thursday of the month. This is the day everybody gets paiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiid. This means that there are 3 tables running in the casino rather than the normal one. I sit down at the 100nl table and sneakily buy in for £250 (max is £150) around 1 hour later I have £251. There is a guy in seat 4 who has just riased to £7.50 pre flop and then bet £10 on the J4J flop and then called when a spewy Spaniard made it £26, 4 turn went c/c and he led for £35 on the Q river and showed AQ to win.

Pre Flop

A large lady from Bet365 straddles and UTG I make it £7.50 with  

I get called in 4 spots including the guy in the small blind (seat 4) (He is playing around £300)

The flop

Comes a pretty nice     .

The smablind leads out for £22 and I make a flat cawl, everybody else gets out the way

The turn

Is the   and after less than 1 second he checks, I check behind.

The river

Is the   and seat 4 reaches immediately for his chips pulling out a stack of reds (£50 and one pillar of his castle of chips) and very confidently looking slides them into the pot. I cawl.

Thoughts on flop/turn/river please.

[SuuPRlim]

raise flop imo, people never donk fold, you have two of the queens which prolly gives him more draws than value hands which he is never bet folding and if he has 55/22 there are a bunch of scare cards that might prevent you getting all £251 of chips matched plus I dont see how we can play for stacks if we dont raise the flop.

As played yup fine, id be tempted to bet the turn, but he will have a flush sometimes.

really tilts me when people call live 50/1 games 100nl, I have no idea why - i'm sure it's not right to call it that.

[redarmi]

Interesting one.  In this kind of game not that many people will donk lead out with a flush draw IMO but you do see them but I would be more likely to be expecting to see JQ or something of that ilk even though we have two of the available queens.  I am also tempted to bet the turn as if he doesn't have a FD he is very much seeing this as being part of your range so likely won't get too out of line on the river without a flush.  As played i think you have to call the river.

[cambridgealex]

raise at least 10pre imo. im sure u had yr reasons, but in those games you could open for 4x with most of your range, then 15x with Aces and Kings and nobody would catch on.

raise the flop 100% , for all the reasons dave said. As played, I like the turn check. I guess call the river too.

really tilts me when people call live 50/1 games 100nl, I have no idea why - i'm sure it's not right to call it that.

+1

[SuuPRlim]

I am also tempted to bet the turn as if he doesn't have a FD he is very much seeing this as being part of your range so likely won't get too out of line on the river without a flush.  As played i think you have to call the river.

Yh I would defo want to bet the turn as played, but I feel chk might be better cos I dont think we can get two streets off his made flop hands now ( x) so a better line for value is probly to chk turn and bet river.

also redarmi, Iv PM'd you, I always wanted to ask something but dont wanna de rail the thread 

[pleno1]

really tilts me when people call live 50/1 games 100nl, I have no idea why - i'm sure it's not right to call it that.

ammended just for you

x

[GreekStein]

I sit down at the 100nl table and sneakily buy in for £250 (max is £150)

This seems a bit out of line pads

[pleno1]

I sit down at the 100nl table and sneakily buy in for £250 (max is £150)

This seems a bit out of line pads

Everybody had 300+ and people in the game were multaiiiiiiii. I know most of them very well and we never ever object to people wanting to buy in for more. Whats other peoples thoughts on this? I do it almost every night I play, is it really bad?

[GreekStein]

I sit down at the 100nl table and sneakily buy in for £250 (max is £150)

This seems a bit out of line pads

Everybody had 300+ and people in the game were multaiiiiiiii. I know most of them very well and we never ever object to people wanting to buy in for more. Whats other peoples thoughts on this? I do it almost every night I play, is it really bad?

You should take it up with the card room. If everyone is happy with a deeper game then the rules should be changed.

If a fish buys in for £150 and is up to £300 and you sit down and stack him straight away, it's great and +EV for you (in the short term) but unfair on him and he may be discouraged from playing again.

[pleno1]

Cool. What if i sit for £150, grind it up to £750, lose a £1500 pot but want to keep on playing, still think its unacceptable to "illegally" rebuy there?

[GreekStein]

Cool. What if i sit for £150, grind it up to £750, lose a £1500 pot but want to keep on playing, still think its unacceptable to "illegally" rebuy there?

Yup

[boldie]

Cool. What if i sit for £150, grind it up to £750, lose a £1500 pot but want to keep on playing, still think its unacceptable to "illegally" rebuy there?

Yup

this.

you don't sneakily top up or buy in for more. People should always know what you have on the table IMO.

[pleno1]

Its common knowledge in the casino that we do this. The cardroom supervisor sais he cant legally change the rules and if he see's people with bigger stacks at start iof night he reminds them of the rules, but as the night goes on he cant track every pot so people basically sit with whatever they like.

[Rupert]

i dont mind flop, u have all the good cards.  bet the turn for sure.  rivers fine

[stato_1]

i dont mind flop, u have all the good cards.  bet the turn for sure.  rivers fine

really dont mind flop? just dont see what hes lead/folding very often into a multiway pot here. surely raising allows us to try and get stacks in good vs draws/2pr/sets which might be difficult to do on certain turns and rivers, and if his hand is that weak then were not going to get much more value from it on later streets anyway. Not convinced this is just an airball/a 5 or a 2 or something often enough to make calling > raising