oop with tens to a almost min 3bet

[DMorgan]

Set mine is fine, c/f flop though I think readless his preflop range has you pretty crushed. His sizing is too small for it to be AK here imo

[SuuPRlim]

Am I missing something here?

some-one with lots of chips (presumably been reasonably active) opens, and someone in position with even more chips 3bets?

And his range here is AK/JJ+ ?

Surely paul's perceived range here is ridic wider than TT, and the guys 3bet range is INSANELY wider than JJ?

And now we have an overpair?? I just don't get at all how we can fold this flop.

if he isn't good enough to stick it in ur eye light can we 4bet fold pre?

[redarmi]

Am I missing something here?

some-one with lots of chips (presumably been reasonably active) opens, and someone in position with even more chips 3bets?

And his range here is AK/JJ+ ?

Surely paul's perceived range here is ridic wider than TT, and the guys 3bet range is INSANELY wider than JJ?

And now we have an overpair?? I just don't get at all how we can fold this flop.

if he isn't good enough to stick it in ur eye light can we 4bet fold pre?

Even if his range is 55+ and AQo+ we aren't that likely to be  in good shape on this flop though Dave and if it is even wider does he really c-bet his entire range given stacks?? I do think it is cloe but do we really want to jam this thin?

[SuuPRlim]

Am I missing something here?

some-one with lots of chips (presumably been reasonably active) opens, and someone in position with even more chips 3bets?

And his range here is AK/JJ+ ?

Surely paul's perceived range here is ridic wider than TT, and the guys 3bet range is INSANELY wider than JJ?

And now we have an overpair?? I just don't get at all how we can fold this flop.

if he isn't good enough to stick it in ur eye light can we 4bet fold pre?

Even if his range is 55+ and AQo+ we aren't that likely to be  in good shape on this flop though Dave and if it is even wider does he really c-bet his entire range given stacks?? I do think it is cloe but do we really want to jam this thin?

yh all valid points, can someone work out what % of the time he has to fold the flop to make a jam +EV Id guess it wuold have to be quite high if he is never folding worse. I just think he can have air such a lot here

starting to like a 4bet pre more and more, (to fold or get in depending on what we think of the villain, prolly fold in this case)

[redarmi]

Yeah I quite like 4bet folding too (never thought I would say that sentence!)

[EvilPie]

Yeah I quite like 4bet folding too (never thought I would say that sentence!)

What's the plan when he flats the 4 bet and we get this flop?

[paulhouk03]

If we 4bet pre we have to get it in this flop surely

What's are4 bet sizing
2.5 times the 3bet

[SuuPRlim]

4bet to 11k, (pot will be 24.1k and we have 22k back) so we can jam?

[EvilPie]

4bet to 11k, (pot will be 24.1k and we have 22k back) so we can jam?

So you were 4 bet folding pre until he flatted now you're jamming?

That let's him off the hook if he had AK and gifts him your stack with anything that beats you.

Doesn't seem ideal.

[SuuPRlim]

4bet to 11k, (pot will be 24.1k and we have 22k back) so we can jam?

So you were 4 bet folding pre until he flatted now you're jamming?

That let's him off the hook if he had AK and gifts him your stack with anything that beats you.

Doesn't seem ideal.

seems to be much bet than 4bet chk/folding imo, also I would expect to be flatted very infrequently. id expect him to fold preflop the vast majority of the time and 5ball AI the rest

[paulhouk03]

If he didn't pause on the cbet I woulda checked jammed it

[AlexMartin]

im lost, get dubs to see this thread please.

[SuuPRlim]

I think  taking TT as a set mine vs what  could be a pretty wide 3bet range is the nut low line. I think id rather fold pre

[paulhouk03]

I think  taking TT as a set mine vs what  could be a pretty wide 3bet range is the nut low line. I think id rather fold pre

folding pre was an option i was considering quite abit at the time

[pleno1]

4b call.