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« on: March 29, 2011, 12:12:25 AM »

***** Hand History for Game 29428143337 ***** (Full Tilt)
$100.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Monday, March 28, 06:17:57 ET 2011
Table Bangle (heads up) (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Seat 1: Toddswain ( $524.30 USD )
Seat 2: ToRn1 ( $293.10 USD )

ToRn1 posts small blind [$0.50 USD].
Toddswain posts big blind [$1.00 USD].

** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Toddswain [  ]

ToRn1 raises [$2.50 USD]
Toddswain raises [$10.00 USD]
ToRn1 raises [$24.00 USD]
Toddswain raises [$60.00 USD]
ToRn1 calls [$44.00 USD]

** Dealing Flop ** [ , , ]
Toddswain..... $222 back effectively





Reads on villian, were about 1k hands into match 2tabling and hes down around $400 at this point, was down $800 like 200hands before. Hes been playing really really aggro/fishy, really doesnt like to fold. His 3bet % is around 27% when im opening around 75% of btns, hes 4bet like 3times all game, once with KKs and i flatted aces and got it in on flop, ive folded to other 2 so not sure. My4bet% is probs slightly higher than his with me 4betting around 6times all match, hes seen me do it with Aces, and not seen the others.Postflop hes hasnt folded once in any 3bet pots on flop, and stacks off really light once we make it to the flop.

Imo from wt ive seen all game and especially the last 100 hands or so, his range here is literally, any pp, any suited A, KT+

Sorry for whats probs a lame description of villian.

Whats best play here ?

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« Reply #1 on: March 29, 2011, 01:37:46 AM »

Im not much of a heads up player but given your description I would lead like $80 and call a shove.
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« Reply #2 on: March 29, 2011, 02:06:51 AM »

Yea, looking back, its quite obv

[  ] tough spot
[ x ] bet/call
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« Reply #3 on: March 29, 2011, 11:22:13 AM »

its actually really hard spot, but from looking at the HH you posted on skype it seems like a b/sigh call and try and fade vs his pair+draws.
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Worst playcalling I have ever seen. Bunch of  fucking jokers . Run the bloody ball. 18 rushes all game? You have to be kidding me. Fuck off lol
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« Reply #4 on: March 29, 2011, 01:18:46 PM »

I mean, I dont think you can do anything other than bet get it in. Kinda sigh cos you can pretty much never be crushing.

betting and getting peeled is also pretty sigh, speshly if the turn is a Q, 8, A, K or heart lol
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« Reply #5 on: March 29, 2011, 01:32:29 PM »

Yeah, it looks like a tough spot. It's not a great spot, but it's a bit of a non-decision.

Checking is just nasty
Bet-folding sounds bad vs this guy and range
So it's basically just a bet-call, making sure to size the bet in such a way peeling for villain isnt really an option and shoving with a pair + draw or just a draw as a semi-bluff seems like a viable option for him/her.

I think you see AQ,JQ,QT,T8,Jx,89,xhxh, even AK with a heart possibly shoving. Obv getting it in bad vs 2-pairs, sets, straights, but massively +EV bet-call.
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« Reply #6 on: March 30, 2011, 05:23:49 AM »

i think check jam wins more than bet call
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« Reply #7 on: March 30, 2011, 09:06:05 AM »

i think check jam wins more than bet call

yeah we discussed this with mark/si and they much preffered it becasue when we get floated almost every turn sucks.
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Worst playcalling I have ever seen. Bunch of  fucking jokers . Run the bloody ball. 18 rushes all game? You have to be kidding me. Fuck off lol
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« Reply #8 on: March 30, 2011, 11:28:27 AM »

i think check jam wins more than bet call

yeah we discussed this with mark/si and they much preffered it becasue when we get floated almost every turn sucks.

and what if villain just checks back, thereby eliciting a virtual float anyhow/giving him an equity jump? Pretty sure i like betting given read, unless he has some biased stat like an abnormal bet vs missed cbet in 3b pot. I think his jamming over our cbet range is actually wider than his betcalling range?
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« Reply #9 on: April 02, 2011, 01:52:16 PM »

I kinda missed a vital piece of info out from reads which will probs change alot of decisions, whenever i checked to villain he would bet like 75% pot like 100% of the time, so i think this inclines me more to check/shove, i think the line between c/s and b/c isnt tht far away and still not sure which is best. I actually took a really bad line on the flop, i shoved the flop for value as he can call with like tonnes that i beat, JJ isnt one of them hands and he snapped me of, its ok tho, i found that Qball on the turn and bricked the river. Standard
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« Reply #10 on: April 02, 2011, 07:51:02 PM »

I kinda missed a vital piece of info out from reads which will probs change alot of decisions, whenever i checked to villain he would bet like 75% pot like 100% of the time, so i think this inclines me more to check/shove, i think the line between c/s and b/c isnt tht far away and still not sure which is best. I actually took a really bad line on the flop, i shoved the flop for value as he can call with like tonnes that i beat, JJ isnt one of them hands and he snapped me of, its ok tho, i found that Qball on the turn and bricked the river. Standard

jesus, with a read like that clearly c/s is best.
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« Reply #11 on: April 03, 2011, 07:13:14 AM »

swainys gonna swain
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Worst playcalling I have ever seen. Bunch of  fucking jokers . Run the bloody ball. 18 rushes all game? You have to be kidding me. Fuck off lol
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