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Question: What would you do?
Admit - 0 (0%)
Stay silent - 6 (100%)
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« on: April 02, 2011, 11:43:33 PM »

Hypothetical scenario:

You and your mate have had a wild moment and committed a serious offence.

You're nicked, as is your mate. You are about to be spoken to by D.I. Plod, he knows you've done it but can't prove it.

You don't know what your friend is going to do, no prior arrangement for how deal with the police, there will be no chance of interaction.

If you both stay silent or deny the crime, you both go free.

If you admit it and your mate denies the offence you will be rewarded for your co-operation and set free, he will go down for a long time. The reverse is also true if he admits and you deny.

If you both admit the offence you don't get a reward but get sent down for a short time.


Q What would you do, admit or stay silent.

(I know there are unrealistic facts involved and it ignores certian rules of evidence but they are the facts in this situation, no other issues to be considered other than desore for freedom)
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« Reply #1 on: April 02, 2011, 11:47:55 PM »

This is the prisoner's dilemma but you have it slightly wrong. In your scenario you obv just deny it and you both go free.

Both denying should carry a penalty. In which case you should admit to it.
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« Reply #2 on: April 02, 2011, 11:51:57 PM »

It is that dilemma, though there is no penalty for both denying the offence. I am using Warburton's scenario and he thinks your wrong.
How do you know the other is going to deny the offence?
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« Reply #3 on: April 02, 2011, 11:53:16 PM »

This is the prisoner's dilemma but you have it slightly wrong. In your scenario you obv just deny it and you both go free.

Both denying should carry a penalty. In which case you should admit to it.

You're both wrong. It's actually the traveller's dilemma but he forgot to tell us how many suitcases there are while giving us a lot of superfluous information about being nicked.
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« Reply #4 on: April 02, 2011, 11:54:53 PM »

Or it's the Whopper with Cheese, in which case...

zomg where is the mthr-fkin cheese.
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« Reply #5 on: April 02, 2011, 11:56:01 PM »

I was trying to give Thomas something to think about other than s Ms Black's music video art or not.
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« Reply #6 on: April 02, 2011, 11:57:10 PM »

STEAL
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« Reply #7 on: April 02, 2011, 11:58:52 PM »

It's not original G2L, I know that, I said so above. 3 posters, none nailing their colours to the mast
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« Reply #8 on: April 03, 2011, 12:00:10 AM »

its the gavvers, always keep schtum
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« Reply #9 on: April 03, 2011, 12:00:20 AM »

Just caught on Rups, I thought your were accusing me of plagarism.

Steal in DOND is always the right choice.
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« Reply #10 on: April 03, 2011, 12:01:09 AM »

It is that dilemma, though there is no penalty for both denying the offence. I am using Warburton's scenario and he thinks your wrong.
How do you know the other is going to deny the offence?

Why wouldn't you deny it when you know you'll both get away with it if you both deny?

Denying results in either: going free or jail for long time
Admitting results in either jail for long time or jail for short time

Therefore you should deny.
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« Reply #11 on: April 03, 2011, 12:01:41 AM »

its the gavvers, always keep schtum

A good decision in real life but it's these facts that matter.
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« Reply #12 on: April 03, 2011, 12:02:15 AM »

STEAL

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I can't believe that programme had more than a few episodes aired. It really should have just been a few eps of steal/steal and them realising the whole thing was pointless.
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« Reply #13 on: April 03, 2011, 12:02:59 AM »

It is that dilemma, though there is no penalty for both denying the offence. I am using Warburton's scenario and he thinks your wrong.
How do you know the other is going to deny the offence?

Why wouldn't you deny it when you know you'll both get away with it if you both deny?

Denying results in either: going free or jail for long time
Admitting results in either jail for long time or jail for short time

Therefore you should deny.

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« Reply #14 on: April 03, 2011, 12:07:54 AM »

It is that dilemma, though there is no penalty for both denying the offence. I am using Warburton's scenario and he thinks your wrong.
How do you know the other is going to deny the offence?

Why wouldn't you deny it when you know you'll both get away with it if you both deny?

Denying results in either: going free or jail for long time
Admitting results in either jail for long time or jail for short time

Therefore you should deny.

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Ah yes sorry. The admit/deny terminology confused me lol.

Admit to it. You either go free or get a short jail term. Denying results in either going free or a long jail term.

That's obv the game theory answer and doesn't take into account real life stuff such as not grassing on your mates etc.
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