Ghey turn spot, very deep

[pleno1]

Reads are that he is a decent and aggro.

Full Tilt Poker Game #29631373729: Table Swiftly Tilting (6 max) - $1/$2 - No Limit Hold'em - 18:34:57 ET - 2011/04/04
Seat 1: d2d4 ($243.40)
Seat 2: ICHI24 ($562.85)
Seat 3: OMGKingJulien ($201.55)
Seat 4: 44--leon--44 ($332.40)
Seat 5: hdkeisk ($474.15)
Seat 6: pads1161 ($386.90)
OMGKingJulien posts the small blind of $1
44--leon--44 posts the big blind of $2
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to pads1161 [As Ah]
hdkeisk has 8 seconds left to act
hdkeisk raises to $7
pads1161 calls $7
d2d4 calls $7
ICHI24 calls $7
OMGKingJulien calls $6
44--leon--44 folds
*** FLOP *** [ ]
OMGKingJulien checks
hdkeisk bets $22
pads1161 calls $22
d2d4 folds
ICHI24 raises to $78
OMGKingJulien folds
hdkeisk calls $56
pads1161 calls $56
*** TURN *** [ ] []
hdkeisk checks
pads1161 checks
ICHI24 has 15 seconds left to act
ICHI24 bets $175
hdkeisk folds
pads1161 has 15 seconds left to act
pads1161 has requested TIME

[TheFallen]

why call the flop if you didnt know what to do on the turn? this had to be the one of the best turns for you and changes nothing. You must expect someone to bet the turn a high % of the time so if you called the flop then you should shove the turn? if you dont shove now it seems like you just burnt $50 calling the flop.

personally im not calling the flop raise.

[pleno1]

Yeah I mean ghey spot overall.

Reasons for calling pre.

1) omgkingjulien squeezes a fuck load
2) it looks super strong
3) the utg player folded to tonne of 3bs

I think pre is fine with the table stats, but obv its hard for u to see that and its hwy huds are so important for rush.

Reasons for calling flop (very dubious)

1) I'm getting almost 4/1 (?) and I expect to be good one in 4 times here
2) When original raiser flats I think he has a bunch of K/Q's (blockers) so hard for him to have KQ.
3) I don't have so now chance he has Axdd.
4) He squeezes qq/kk pre 100% of time

[George2Loose]

Calling for odds is a bad reason. It's a multi street game. Unless you're drawing to a hand here the odds are irrelevant. He's firing most turns

[SuuPRlim]

When we are on the turn, I feel like we should be stacking off as his actual value range is so thin. But I do think this is a spot where you are gonna get show it nearly every time, raising the flop with any air that isn't Ahigh diamonds seems very un feesiable so imo it's just gonna be nfd or KQ.66....

This being said I think i'm prolly just gonna let it go OTF, you're getting a good price admitedly, if you genuinely think more than 25% of the time he has the NFD draw here then I don't mind calling and c/jamming the turn, but i do feel most likely he'll just be vbetting the top of his value range in this spot.

really dont like pre flop, far to FPS trying to trap a squeezer - people with wide squeeze %'s dont squeeze stuff like 83o they just have a wider range of value hands they are willing to do it with, so still need to find one of these hands (makes me laugh live the amount of times people limp AA/KK into my btn/straddles and afterwards are like, wtf are doing I was sure ud raise, like Im squeezing over 5 live people OOP with Q4o) also you really turn you hand face up is pretty hard to balance profitably. Just 3bet imo ul prolly get a caller and will see the flop with similar money in the pot but you'll have a much wider percieved range

[pleno1]

When we are on the turn, I feel like we should be stacking off as his actual value range is so thin. But I do think this is a spot where you are gonna get show it nearly every time, raising the flop with any air that isn't Ahigh diamonds seems very un feesiable so imo it's just gonna be nfd or KQ.66....

This being said I think i'm prolly just gonna let it go OTF, you're getting a good price admitedly, if you genuinely think more than 25% of the time he has the NFD draw here then I don't mind calling and c/jamming the turn, but i do feel most likely he'll just be vbetting the top of his value range in this spot.

really dont like pre flop, far to FPS trying to trap a squeezer - people with wide squeeze %'s dont squeeze stuff like 83o they just have a wider range of value hands they are willing to do it with, so still need to find one of these hands (makes me laugh live the amount of times people limp AA/KK into my btn/straddles and afterwards are like, wtf are doing I was sure ud raise, like Im squeezing over 5 live people OOP with Q4o) also you really turn you hand face up is pretty hard to balance profitably. Just 3bet imo ul prolly get a caller and will see the flop with similar money in the pot but you'll have a much wider percieved range

Hey lildddddd

3betting UTG+1 in rush I think we will get cold called less than 2% of the time and I think UTG only continues 15-20% of the itme. Also people squeeze alotttt in rush.
I think I've slowplayed aces pre less than 0.5% of the time but thought it was a decent spot.

I jammed turn he had KQo, sigh.