Black Friday and the aftermath: Online Poker Implications

[mondatoo]

http://www.egrmagazine.com/features/1683902/black-friday-impact-felt-by-live-players.thtml


Sam Trickett gives some thoughts

......explains Trickett, who mentions an acquaintance of his who has $4.5m ‘in limbo’ on Full Tilt.

FFS... I told him not to say anything.

Blatant I'm an acquaintance of Trickett brag.

You sure got the joke

I sure didn't.

[smashedagain]

http://www.egrmagazine.com/features/1683902/black-friday-impact-felt-by-live-players.thtml


Sam Trickett gives some thoughts

......explains Trickett, who mentions an acquaintance of his who has $4.5m ‘in limbo’ on Full Tilt.

FFS... I told him not to say anything.

Blatant I'm an acquaintance of Trickett brag.

You sure got the joke

I sure didn't.

does someone really have $4.5 million on full tilt. if it was my money i would be in vegas looking for howard. he paid todd brunson the $150k he was owed

[MC]

does someone really have $4.5 million on full tilt. if it was my money i would be in vegas looking for howard. he paid todd brunson the $150k he was owed

that sure was a true story...

[smashedagain]

does someone really have $4.5 million on full tilt. if it was my money i would be in vegas looking for howard. he paid todd brunson the $150k he was owed

that sure was a true story...

the $4.5 mill or $150k story... says someone possibly jungleman has $6 mill

[DaveShoelace]

You don't think he may have been referring to James Bord? Not having 4.5 mil in his own account, but spread out over the collective accounts of many people he backs? Would explain also his bust up with Juanda at the start of the WSOP.

[MC]

does someone really have $4.5 million on full tilt. if it was my money i would be in vegas looking for howard. he paid todd brunson the $150k he was owed

that sure was a true story...

the $4.5 mill or $150k story... says someone possibly jungleman has $6 mill

The Todd Brunson story...

[smashedagain]

You don't think he may have been referring to James Bord? Not having 4.5 mil in his own account, but spread out over the collective accounts of many people he backs? Would explain also his bust up with Juanda at the start of the WSOP.

quite possibly barry. i thought i had posted on here an example but i have had that many posts deleted i dont know what the hell i've said and not.

i have not always seen eye to eye with Jamie sykes (lildaves house mate) but whilst he was out in vegas i begged him to get his money off tilt. he said there was nothing he could do whilst in the states so i told him to get mum, dad or anyone he trusts to get on tilt and do it for him. he know has his roll stuffed under lildaves matress and was railing "singing stand up if you play on line" and "we all withdrew from full tilt".

if bordy could not see it coming with his ability to read situations then i just hold my head in my hands.

ok james...when one spouts so much bull shit it is very hard to smell everybody elses

[TightEnd]

Wickedchops

Lumping a few small Full Tilt Poker posts into one medium sized write-up on this one.

We’re hearing from multiple sources that the aforementioned Full Tilt Poker has (finally) laid off some of their U.S.-based employees.

Giving credit where it’s due, although these layoffs should’ve happened around 1pm PT on April 15th, our sources say that Tilt is paying in full all laid off employees for time served from April through now.

One employee who amazingly still has a job is Federally indicted CEO Ray Bitar. We had previously reported a rumor (that we cited we needed a second source on, which we never got) that Bitar was voted out of his position. This story, sadly, ruined his day. We’ve since heard that Howard Lederer at least played a part in blocking Bitar’s ouster. By all accounts, Lederer is fiercely loyal to Bitar, and in general, loyalty (as evidenced by Tilt paying their U.S.-based employees) is paramount over all at Tilt.

Finally, Full Tilt managed to pay the approximate $450,000 owed to the Alderney Gambling Control Commission (AGCC). This opens the door for getting their gaming license reinstated.

[Bongo]

Finally, Full Tilt managed to pay the approximate $450,000 owed to the Alderney Gambling Control Commission (AGCC). This opens the door for getting their gaming license reinstated.

They really care about the players in Alderney.

[tikay]

Meanwhile, over at 'Stars, the quest for ever-increasing world dominance continues unchecked.....

"......ALEX PAYNE JOINS POKERSTARS AS CHIEF MARKETING OFFICER

Latest appointment rounds out new senior leadership team built over the last 12 months

 

DOUGLAS, ISLE OF MAN – August 16, 2011 – PokerStars today announced that Alex Payne has joined the entertainment and technology company as Chief Marketing Officer responsible for all aspects of consumer marketing across the business. Payne will lead all central and regional marketing organizations at PokerStars and be based in the Isle of Man. Payne was hired following an eight-month international search conducted by a leading executive search firm. 

 

Payne will be responsible for the company’s brand and advertising, TV programming productions and media buying, online marketing including paid search, organic search, social media, regional customer relationship management and acquisition, conversion and retention campaigns for online and live poker players.

 

“I’m delighted to be joining PokerStars,” Payne said. “I am joining an outstanding business, which is the clear leader in its category and has enormous potential ahead of it. Moreover, it’s a product in which I have a huge personal passion.”

 

Payne joins PokerStars from Microsoft, where he has spent the last 11 years. During this time he has held a wide variety of national, regional and global marketing roles including new product development, strategy & planning and product marketing. Most recently Payne held the position of Sales & Marketing Director for Bing in the UK, where he kick-started the UK search business, building a new team and adopting a new growth strategy that included innovative advertising and the use of celebrities. Over the past year the business has seen double-digit revenue growth, helping Bing to win market share directly from its key competitors.

 

Other key achievements at Microsoft include creating a US industry standard for online ads with Yahoo! and AOL, launching Windows 7 in Europe, making it the fastest-selling OS ever, and holding market share on Internet Explorer following the European Commission’s ruling that all Windows users be offered a choice of competitive browsers.

 

Prior to Microsoft, Payne, who holds an MBA from INSEAD, spent ten years in advertising agencies, including OgilvyOne (formerly Ogilvy & Mather Direct) and EHS Brann (formerly Evans Hunt Scott)......"

[Acidmouse]

does anyone have an affiliate account with pokerstars? how is it etc? thinking of joining to advertise via some sites i run.

[TightEnd]

Business pages today

Takeover talk was on the cards for Bwin.party yesterday, as investors mulled over whether to take a gamble on the online gaming group after rumours emerged it could be in line for an approach from the US.

The company has existed in its current form only since March, when the merger between PartyGaming and Austria's Bwin was completed. Since then, however, a steady slide – exacerbated by the sharp falls seen across the markets in the past few weeks – has resulted in its share price plummeting by 45 per cent.

The move has prompted chatter that the world's biggest listed online gambling group may become a target, and yesterday vague speculation suggested the casinos group Wynn Resorts, whose chief executive is the Las Vegas billionare Steve Wynn, could be a potential aggressor.

With the gossip claiming a possible bid could reach as high as 170p a share, Bwin.party managed to touch 107.8p during trading before closing at 105.7p, a rise over the session of 1.7p.

Not everyone agreed with the chatter, however, with one trader saying acquisitions in the sector were unlikely until there was further clarification over the potential regulation of online gambling in the US.

The recent rumours came after mutterings last week suggested potential aggressors for Bwin.party could come from closer to home, with William Hill – up 1.9p to 224p – one of the names linked.

[Sheriff Fatman]

does anyone have an affiliate account with pokerstars? how is it etc? thinking of joining to advertise via some sites i run.

I remember asking about one years ago.  I think it's purely a set figure per signup rather than a % of rake agreement with Stars.

[tikay]

Still on the business front, some incredible half-yearly results in the last few weeks......

Ladbrokes.

The business as a whole going along very nicely indeed, as are all Online gaming companies at present, poker excepted. To be fair, poker is a very small part of Ladbrokes business as a whole, & the decline has been ever steeper in recent years, with results for the latest 6 months as dire as dire can be. I say this every 6 months, but it's beyond logical reason that they can allow this to continue much longer, as it's harming an otherwise very successful brand.  One of my "less good" shareholdings. I purchased them in 1988, & I doubt many shares have performed worse. 3 or 4 years ago they traded in the £4.50 - £4.80 band, today they are near to their 5 year low @ £1.27. I'm too embarrassed to say how much I paid for them in the mid-eighties, but in those days, they had the legend Cyril Stein running the Show.

And Poker for the last 6 months? Down from £10.7 million to £7.4 million.That's with the new Management regime in place. It can barely get worse, & the end must be nigh.

Rank

Effectively, Grosvenor.com & Blue Square I suppose, as to (Online) poker. Again, the business as a whole is going along nicely, but I was absolutely staggered at the poker numbers - I never realised for a moment how small they are, or had become. I'm sure there was a rational explanation for opening up Grosvenor.com when they already had Blue Square, but the timing was like mine near bubble time.....It's not so long ago that Blue Square, in it's Tribeca mode, was really quite a popular room. Rather sad, in a way, as I've always liked the people associated with it, on both sides of the Table.

Results for last 6 months (NOT a typo), down from £1 million to £700,000 - broadly in line, in % trms if not size, with Ladbrokes. The Directors Report noted "poker is not an area of priority, & we have no plans to invest significant Management resource in it", or words to that effect.

Cryptologic.

The shocker of all shockers, talk about how the mighty have fallen, they were very much the buzz 8 or 10 years back, but how about these numbers.....(noted, of course, that the structure of the business changed dramatically a few years back). I THINK they used to have an operating base in Canada, unless my mermory deceives me.

Poker - Down from $0.4 million to $0.2 million.....

i-poker reported something like a 29% downturn last time they reported iirc, & UniBet's poker numbers were in freefall.

No word on Full-Tilt of late, either.

[TightEnd]

In essence then, the market leader and a few up and coming specialists aside (cough), the online poker market remains in recession, yes?