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« on: April 18, 2011, 10:05:39 PM »

I was playing in a casino in Estonia at the weekend. 

It was already clear that you didn't have to show any cards to take a hand in this casino even at showdown.  Players had been regularly mucking and the other had taken the pot all weekend.

Then I was involved in the following hand.

I raised with a pair of black , The fella on my left reraised and I called.  The flop came  two hearts two spades.  I checked, fella bet, I called.  Turn came another low heart.  I checked, the fella checked behind.  River came another low heart (grr), and it went check check.

My oppo then flipped his cards over quickly (thank you sir) showing  .  When doing this, he had thrown them over the line,and the dealer pretty much insta flipped them over and mixed them in the muck and handed me the pot.   I am pretty sure you could no longer pick them out.  This all happened pretty quickly and I hadn't even flipped my cards.

I turned my over and said that isn't right and shoved the pot towards him.

The dealer tried to give me the pot but I was pretty insistent.  I was speaking to a couple of other english players later, and one of them said they'd have just chucked his cards in the middle face down and kept the pot.

So two questions,
given the casino rule was clearly you didn't have to show to take a pot, what would be the correct ruling here?
and two would anyone else have kept the pot?

FWIW I think I was the victim of a bad ruling in the comp earlier, and does this change your answer?
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« Reply #1 on: April 18, 2011, 10:06:46 PM »

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« Reply #2 on: April 18, 2011, 10:11:36 PM »

sorry dont have time to comment on this ruling thread as I've just got a promotion at work.
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« Reply #3 on: April 18, 2011, 10:14:11 PM »

The pot is obviously his. Both hands have been shown and he had the better one.

You've pointed this out, so you don't have to feel like you're cheating or anything.

If they still want to give you the pot at this point then just let them.
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« Reply #4 on: April 18, 2011, 11:57:46 PM »

It shouldn't matter what house rules a place have in this instance, a fundamental rule is that once a hand has been tabled 1) cards speak 2) a dealer cannot kill a winning hand.
After you have pointed this out (which you rightly did) the TD's decision is final, so the chips are yours. It maybe is the wrong decision by the TD, but it stands  

edit, after reading it again it seems the TD wasn't called errrrrrrrrm WTF?!
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