Should I be folding post flop? And vbet river?

[Bully87]

OK we already know I'm loose as Jordans bits and thats why I'm in this pot with this hand. But want to know if anyone lays down at any point post flop. It may look relatively simple to say fold pre, check call flop, turn and river. River should I be V betting? 9 high flush on a paired board? If so how much?

***** Hand History for Game 1111111111 ***** (Poker Stars)
$50.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Monday, April 18, 12:39:25 ET 2011
Table Sy III (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Seat 1: Player1 ( $50.40 USD ) - VPIP: 22, PFR: 14, 3B: 0, AF: 1.3, Hands: 65
Seat 2: Player2 ( $50.00 USD ) - VPIP: 21, PFR: 11, 3B: 6, AF: 7.0, Hands: 71
Seat 3: Player3 ( $122.70 USD ) - VPIP: 35, PFR: 16, 3B: 11, AF: 1.8, Hands: 69
Seat 5: Hero ( $118.70 USD ) - VPIP: 36, PFR: 19, 3B: 10, AF: 2.0, Hands: 4751
Seat 6: Player6 ( $57.25 USD ) - VPIP: 21, PFR: 18, 3B: 0, AF: 0.9, Hands: 99
Player3 posts small blind [$0.25 USD].
Hero posts big blind [$0.50 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [  ]
Player6 folds
Player1 folds
Player2 raises [$1.15 USD]
Player3 calls [$0.90 USD]
Hero calls [$0.65 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ , , ]
Player3 bets [$1.50 USD]
Hero calls [$1.50 USD]
Player2 raises [$4.50 USD]
Player3 folds
Hero calls [$3.00 USD]
** Dealing Turn ** [ ]
Hero checks
Player2 bets [$9.95 USD]
Hero calls [$9.95 USD]
** Dealing River ** [ ]
Hero checks
Player2 checks
Hero shows [, ]
Hero wins $32.20 USD from main pot
Player2 doesn't show [, ]

[SuuPRlim]

lets not talk about preflop :p

this is a great example of a hand we can cut out of our preflop calling range in case you need to know why...


Hold'em Simulation ?
239,722,560 trials (Exhaustive)
Hand   Equity   Wins   Ties
9h5h   31.69%   75,191,927   1,557,904
11%   68.31%   162,972,729   1,557,904

and it gets even worse as it goes multi way....

fold to the flop raise 100%

fold to the turn bet 100%

once he's checked we have the best hnd so bettttttttttttttttt the river 100000% and his range is STRONG so we're getting a LOT of calls

[TheRaise]

If you are going to call with 95 suited preflop then you must bet the river.

[pleno1]

our hand is pretty face up if we c/c. c/c. lead on flush flop.

[SuuPRlim]

our hand is pretty face up if we c/c. c/c. lead on flush flop.

you mean river? we're IP

[Bully87]

our hand is pretty face up if we c/c. c/c. lead on flush flop.

Thats what I thought, and then it's a paired board too.

Point taken on playing 95hh...but on turn I should be getting better? I picked up an up and down draw.

[SuuPRlim]

we still have to bet the river, we're IP pleno.

he 100% bets his flushes, and the only better hands he might chk to us putting us on a FD are 66/33/QQ

turn is still a fold, we're doing so badly vs his whole range, which given the action multiway OTF is pretty much entirely value, big heart combo's the only ones that are "AIR" and we have terrrrrible equity vs them

[pleno1]

we still have to bet the river, we're IP pleno.

he 100% bets his flushes, and the only better hands he might chk to us putting us on a FD are 66/33/QQ

turn is still a fold, we're doing so badly vs his whole range, which given the action multiway OTF is pretty much entirely value, big heart combo's the only ones that are "AIR" and we have terrrrrible equity vs them

** Dealing River ** [ ]
Hero checks
Player2 checks

[SuuPRlim]

o yeah.

wierd. I was sure we were IP.....

This is why we dont draw to stuff with non-showdown that we cant comfortabley VB

ver spewy hand imo

[AlexMartin]

hard to butcher every decision, close though.

[cambridgealex]

Lol@alex martin.


I think OP should note the difference between being loose and being spewy.