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« Reply #315 on: April 28, 2011, 03:47:15 PM »

I'm interested in the FR v 6 Max thang.

Good input  from Alex, Jason, Guy and Dave. (I don't understand Cos either)

9 handed - 6 max - HU = reduced average hand strengths

the lower the average hand strength the more place there is in the game for thin value bets and bluffing.

the more decisions you have to make (there are more in 6max and even more in HU ldo) the greater your chance to create an edge and have your opponents make mistakes.


full ring is just people playing tonnes of tables being super nitty with one pair being a struggle.

6max is much more fun.


shortstacking FR would be super boring, quite high variance and be purely maths based so you wouldn't be playing much of a game. no fun imo.

6max ftw.
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« Reply #316 on: April 28, 2011, 03:48:58 PM »

I'm interested in the FR v 6 Max thang.

Good input  from Alex, Jason, Guy and Dave. (I don't understand Cos either)

9 handed - 6 max - HU = reduced average hand strengths

the lower the average hand strength the more place there is in the game for thin value bets and bluffing.

the more decisions you have to make (there are more in 6max and even more in HU ldo) the greater your chance to create an edge and have your opponents make mistakes.


full ring is just people playing tonnes of tables being super nitty with one pair being a struggle.

6max is much more fun.


shortstacking FR would be super boring, quite high variance and be purely maths based so you wouldn't be playing much of a game. no fun imo.

6max ftw.

Ole tit head can present a compelling case when he wants to...
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« Reply #317 on: April 28, 2011, 03:50:44 PM »

it was the qyt thing Cos. full ring obv suits the guys like me  who are happy to have a narrower range  as the nature of the beast means you have to open up in 6 max. my sample size of 6 max is only 4 games and cashed in 3. i found that people over played their hands on the flop and actually heard two guys say how the hell can he be ahead everytime. only small sample but poker is poker. adapt and overcome each given situation
not sure if this is the same as andrew says but 6 max aint as fun imo. seem to move tables a lot just as your arse gets comfy in one seat
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« Reply #318 on: April 28, 2011, 03:52:02 PM »

. i think hands beating you flat n get it in on the next street.


no way - the flop is too drawy to slow play

Tom - is it 58 for you to call or 38?
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« Reply #319 on: April 28, 2011, 03:53:52 PM »

. i think hands beating you flat n get it in on the next street.


no way - the flop is too drawy to slow play

Tom - is it 58 for you to call or 38?

38
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« Reply #320 on: April 28, 2011, 03:57:21 PM »

Also interested in peeps thoughts on short-stacking FR. Even good players seem to make really bad plays against me when I sit with a short stack. It seems to tilt the crap out of them for some reason.

Do you think short-stacking FR is a viable strategy?

Tom I refer you to my post of the other day

Shortstacking has been referred to as

1. cheating
2. unbeatable poker
3. moral-less
4. why would you do anything else
5. annoying
6. .................i could go on

If done with immaculate application  short stacking is unbeatable. I guess the issue is most people dont do it well - those that do have made a lot of money.

Someone on here will link you to a good 2+2 thread - im not very good with 2+2 so it would take me 4 days to find it

As an example - if you sit with 20bbs and everyone else has 100 - in a 6 max  c/o opens his opening range, button calls his 100bb calling range and you jam 20bbs! You are gonna make a lot of money of you play a specific range of holdings (helps to run good too)


stars have now changed their tables to combat this, tilt havent as far as i know
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« Reply #321 on: April 28, 2011, 03:58:26 PM »

. i think hands beating you flat n get it in on the next street.


no way - the flop is too drawy to slow play

Tom - is it 58 for you to call or 38?

38

hmmm dont like it but have to call - he is value betting I think and I dont think he has AJ, so that leaves set and combi draws, so we arent making much money here.

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« Reply #322 on: April 28, 2011, 03:59:26 PM »

lol at calling shortstacking cheating.

it's just like playing a tournament stack, just push fold ranges and opponents opening/calling ranges. it's just a maths puzzle.
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« Reply #323 on: April 28, 2011, 04:04:09 PM »

. i think hands beating you flat n get it in on the next street.


no way - the flop is too drawy to slow play

Tom - is it 58 for you to call or 38?
so AA KK and sets shove... seems alien to me but take your word. are there many drawing hands that call toms raise pre. i think not but thats my thinking which is usually wrong on line. and is tom slow playing QQ v better hands obv not (please dont take this as a level doubleup). what outrageous says sort of makes sense when i see on line winners sigh calling coz they think its the correct thing to do but are obv in a lot of trouble because their opponent could not make it clearer  they have the nuts if they stood on top of their chair and shouted across dtd to their mate "get in i've found another chump who cant fold to double me up"
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« Reply #324 on: April 28, 2011, 04:08:41 PM »

. i think hands beating you flat n get it in on the next street.


no way - the flop is too drawy to slow play

Tom - is it 58 for you to call or 38?

38

hmmm dont like it but have to call - he is value betting I think and I dont think he has AJ, so that leaves set and combi draws, so we arent making much money here.



Spot on Mr D.

We call, he had pocket jacks. I don't think we can play it differently. can we?



Btw- we river a queen  dad dont dance
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« Reply #325 on: April 28, 2011, 04:11:37 PM »

what does ido mean as well tom?
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« Reply #326 on: April 28, 2011, 04:12:48 PM »

what does ido mean as well tom?

its ldo - and its "like der, obv"
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« Reply #327 on: April 28, 2011, 04:14:45 PM »

what does ido mean as well tom?

its ldo - and its "like der, obv"
so everytime i think it means idiot and seems to fit i aint far off......bit like when i thought fyp was feck your post. starting to talk the talk now
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« Reply #328 on: April 28, 2011, 04:25:00 PM »


so AA KK and sets shove... seems alien to me but take your word. are there many drawing hands that call toms raise pre.

He doesn't play AA KK this way pre, but if he did he would most def push here.  The loose player quite likely has a drawing hand and in fact (to illustrate the nittiness of FR) the original raiser turned his jj into a drawing hand.  Tom is just about pot commited so there is no reason to slow play anyway and additionally the concern would be that a scare card could hit the turn and frighten off Tom.

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« Reply #329 on: April 28, 2011, 04:34:50 PM »


so AA KK and sets shove... seems alien to me but take your word. are there many drawing hands that call toms raise pre.

He doesn't play AA KK this way pre, but if he did he would most def push here.  The loose player quite likely has a drawing hand and in fact (to illustrate the nittiness of FR) the original raiser turned his jj into a drawing hand.  Tom is just about pot commited so there is no reason to slow play anyway and additionally the concern would be that a scare card could hit the turn and frighten off Tom.


thanks appreciate your honesty. like i post what i honestly think even if its wrong or gets me flamed
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