Straddles

[cambridgealex]

often good for the game gets people a bit more gambley, makes you look like ur not a nit + fish hate nits (you look like you're a gambler by posting 2bigs once an orbit), its fun cos it makes bigger pots and bigger pots = more fun :p

should widen people's opening ranges preflop as there is more dead money

was just pointing out to anyone saying it as +ev its defo not lol. Could be +EV to straddle from the btn, but I'm guessing it prolly wont be, although its a great thing to do imo cos all of te above applies but ur OTB and not UTG

is that why tom does it?

[Whollyflush]

straddlers are for people who want to put in 2bb UTG with 100% of hands.  under certain circumstances it could be a good idea, under most it's a completely terrible idea if your goal is to make money.

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[cambridgealex]

straddlers are for people who want to put in 2bb UTG with 100% of hands.  under certain circumstances it could be a good idea, under most it's a completely terrible idea if your goal is to make money.

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i was watching this poker show called High Stakes Poker and they all did straddles on there. are they wrong?

[pleno1]

straddlers are for people who want to put in 2bb UTG with 100% of hands.  under certain circumstances it could be a good idea, under most it's a completely terrible idea if your goal is to make money.

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i was watching this poker show called High Stakes Poker and they all did straddles on there. are they wrong?

they just sick degens

[pleno1]

They also buy iun for more than 100bb like a normal cash game and it only generally runs when everybody agrees to it, to its more of a mandatory straddle than a voluntary one.

[cambridgealex]

yeh but ppl itt are saying regardless of how deep a game is its -ev. cant imagine durrr doing nething -ev ever as he's my fkn hero

[GreekStein]

Urgh this Niticism is horrid

[RED-DOG]

If I straddle, the next man re-straddles...

[TheFallen]

Straddling deep dtd 1/2 games is +ev when IT ENCOURAGES TO DO SO and the bigger fish enjoy it and sit deeper/reload more/ come more often. What you lose in ev on your straddle you gain back from others putting the straddle on when you have position. Most dont exploit straddles properly so probably 4 straddles at the table is enough to break even on its own. Also It definately leads to the juicier games ainec also leads to ridic amount of dead money (way more limping when straddles on).

Who makes out best from straddling? The nits who are benefitting from the good games others are promoting. But who makes out best from tablestarters- the nits who wait to bumhunt the games once fish enter. Overall it's still a good idea from the 2 hero regs to start games.

I'll staddle on and off depending on the size of games and who is in it as well as the relative position of everyone at the table.

[cambridgealex]

Straddling deep dtd 1/2 games is +ev when IT ENCOURAGES TO DO SO and the bigger fish enjoy it and sit deeper/reload more/ come more often. What you lose in ev on your straddle you gain back from others putting the straddle on when you have position. Most dont exploit straddles properly so probably 4 straddles at the table is enough to break even on its own. Also It definately leads to the juicier games ainec also leads to ridic amount of dead money (way more limping when straddles on).

Who makes out best from straddling? The nits who are benefitting from the good games others are promoting. But who makes out best from tablestarters- the nits who wait to bumhunt the games once fish enter. Overall it's still a good idea from the 2 hero regs to start games.

I'll staddle on and off depending on the size of games and who is in it as well as the relative position of everyone at the table.

post more ged. are u poohbah on 2p2? gonna be at dtd soon?

[Free_Rollin]

I've played in games where it's been a compulsory straddle, and assuming you're a winner in the game and you're rolled for now what is effectively a bigger game with the straddle, it will increase your win rate.

It also makes people do weird stuff like limp with Aces on your straddle 'because you always raise your straddle.' By making people limp with aces you're just making them play bad, +ev for you. Also, even if you do raise when they have 'trapped you' they will play it so face up anyways, you can play perfectly against them i.e. continue when you have implied, etc.

Another reason for me straddling depends on who is in the small and big blinds. It makes sb and bb either complete to your oop, which can never be a bad thing, or they soon start inflating the pot oop. Playing pots in position is obviously a good thing against weak players in the sb and bb.

So, I'd say straddling is definitely +ev but only in the right circumstances and when you consider meta game etc. In a vacuum, voluntarily putting in 2bb utg is obviously costing you money.

[SuuPRlim]

straddlers are for people who want to put in 2bb UTG with 100% of hands.  under certain circumstances it could be a good idea, under most it's a completely terrible idea if your goal is to make money.

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i was watching this poker show called High Stakes Poker and they all did straddles on there. are they wrong?

if the whole table straddles its completely EV neutral, just makes the effective stacks halved......

[Whollyflush]

straddlers are for people who want to put in 2bb UTG with 100% of hands.  under certain circumstances it could be a good idea, under most it's a completely terrible idea if your goal is to make money.

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i was watching this poker show called High Stakes Poker and they all did straddles on there. are they wrong?

Careful thats too much common sense........... (GIQ ffs)

if the whole table straddles its completely EV neutral, just makes the effective stacks halved......

[paulhouk03]

i straddel cos it makes me look less of a nit and look like my fellow china men


i might dress like a twat next time when i play live
sunglasses cap headphones maybe a i knocked out a pro t shirt
see if it effects ppls decisions

[SuuPRlim]

i straddel cos it makes me look less of a nit and look like my fellow china men


i might dress like a twat next time when i play live
sunglasses cap headphones maybe a i knocked out a pro t shirt
see if it effects ppls decisions

it'll affect my desicion to buy you a drink or not :p