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« Reply #30 on: April 22, 2011, 02:31:33 AM »

FWIW Pleno just asked me if I could do him a favour which I was happy to do so I wasn't spammed and have no complaints.
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« Reply #31 on: April 22, 2011, 07:35:22 AM »

I might be wrong but maybe pleno didn't really realise he couldn't use his contacts on blonde for his own commercial benefit. Several people do.

I had an affiliate from before I was with encore and a few blondes pm'd me for deals and continue to do so. Its only a small number because I don't advertise it but its very possible pads didn't know he was really doing anything wrong. Several blondes are affiliated with different sites and businesses which are used by other blondes and quietly done using the forum.

Atm he is an excellent contributor to pha in particular but also to the forum overrall.

My post doesn't really have much of a purpose other than to say whatever he did was prob an oversight on his part, with ofc no malice and it would be good to see his ban shortened.
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« Reply #32 on: April 22, 2011, 07:36:53 AM »

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« Reply #33 on: April 22, 2011, 08:51:30 AM »

Atm he is an excellent contributor to pha in particular but also to the forum overrall.

My post doesn't really have much of a purpose other than to say whatever he did was prob an oversight on his part, with ofc no malice and it would be good to see his ban shortened.
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« Reply #34 on: April 22, 2011, 09:22:00 AM »

I get confused about the nature of these bans and I also don't feel they are explained properly to other members. As a member I don't really know how to interpret the explanation given and as such could fall foul of this rule unwittingly myself. There is a sky banner to the right of this page inviting members to play sky poker, and as far as I am aware sky are blonde's commercial partner. Yet on this same page we can click a member's sig and get invited to play on another poker site. Every member who views this page can click that link and get an invitation to play a rival site. That sig appears in almost every thread multiple times. In comparison Pleno sent a couple of private pm's. I don't know why one is commercially detrimental to blonde and one is not. Not having a pop at anyone btw I just genuinely don't understand.
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« Reply #35 on: April 22, 2011, 09:41:45 AM »

I get confused about the nature of these bans and I also don't feel they are explained properly to other members. As a member I don't really know how to interpret the explanation given and as such could fall foul of this rule unwittingly myself. There is a sky banner to the right of this page inviting members to play sky poker, and as far as I am aware sky are blonde's commercial partner. Yet on this same page we can click a member's sig and get invited to play on another poker site. Every member who views this page can click that link and get an invitation to play a rival site. That sig appears in almost every thread multiple times. In comparison Pleno sent a couple of private pm's. I don't know why one is commercially detrimental to blonde and one is not. Not having a pop at anyone btw I just genuinely don't understand.

Don't worry, most people who are banned receive at least one warning, and when they continue to do what they're doing regardless then a suspension is imposed. 
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« Reply #36 on: April 22, 2011, 09:52:25 AM »

I get confused about the nature of these bans and I also don't feel they are explained properly to other members. As a member I don't really know how to interpret the explanation given and as such could fall foul of this rule unwittingly myself. There is a sky banner to the right of this page inviting members to play sky poker, and as far as I am aware sky are blonde's commercial partner. Yet on this same page we can click a member's sig and get invited to play on another poker site. Every member who views this page can click that link and get an invitation to play a rival site. That sig appears in almost every thread multiple times. In comparison Pleno sent a couple of private pm's. I don't know why one is commercially detrimental to blonde and one is not. Not having a pop at anyone btw I just genuinely don't understand.

Don't worry, most people who are banned receive at least one warning, and when they continue to do what they're doing regardless then a suspension is imposed. 


That is good to know. It doesn't address my confusion over what is commercially detrimental to blonde thou.
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« Reply #37 on: April 22, 2011, 10:07:07 AM »

is me having a link to the firm in my sig against the rules?
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« Reply #38 on: April 22, 2011, 10:12:56 AM »

We try to enforce no commercial links in sig lines, no advertisement or promotion of competitor rakeback deals on the forum, no requests from members to "PM me for a good deal" etc etc

Inevitably, some slip through as its a busy, broad forum and resources to enforce the above can be limited depending on the workload of the mods in their day to day lives

It's all about maximising the value of the sponsorship of the site to its commercial partner. At the same time I and colleagues are busy developing new commercial relationships with future potential partners, perhaps, or those who might be prepared to fund us in some current areas (the firm poker and live updates was one example mentioned earlier in the thread)

If there is a problem, members are contacted and asked to remove a sig line or told why a post has been removed. I'd guess we do 10-15 of these a week.

Is this the best operating model? Possibly not. It's a function though of how the forum was set up at outset (free to view and post by members, no subscription, no compulsion to support the forum) and the pressures we had and the risks of not continuing after IPoker brought us to our knees, that we went with an exclusive partner to provide some stability

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« Reply #39 on: April 22, 2011, 10:17:36 AM »

is me having a link to the firm in my sig against the rules?

If it wasn't for the fact that I am developing a partnership with Aaron and Mark for some live updates, yes. For example they are doing stuff with us for GUKPT Walsall which will enable a GUKPT Walsall update to appear on blonde.

Not a criticism of you, per se, but the many members who put other poker concerns in their sig lines without asking blonde first is a bit cheeky really (at best) and rude (at worst)

That said, its the case I think that we haven't made it enough and certainly it will appear inconsistent to a member who is unaware of what relationships are developing behind the secenes. Which is one of Mantis' points.
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« Reply #40 on: April 22, 2011, 10:47:33 AM »

Greekstein keeps pm'ing me about rb, as the mods can't read PMs could you take my word for it and give him a 28 day ban.

Ever since he quit work he has been an absolute pain!!
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« Reply #41 on: April 22, 2011, 10:57:00 AM »

Greekstein keeps pm'ing me about rb, as the mods can't read PMs could you take my word for it and give him a 28 day ban.

Ever since he quit work he has been an absolute pain!!

Do we have someone to second this?
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« Reply #42 on: April 22, 2011, 10:58:51 AM »

Greekstein keeps pm'ing me about rb, as the mods can't read PMs could you take my word for it and give him a 28 day ban.

Ever since he quit work he has been an absolute pain!!

Do we have someone to second this?

lol go do one

as if i'd pm anyone. I'd respond when people ask.
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« Reply #43 on: April 22, 2011, 11:00:23 AM »

Greekstein keeps pm'ing me about rb, as the mods can't read PMs could you take my word for it and give him a 28 day ban.

Ever since he quit work he has been an absolute pain!!

Do we have someone to second this?

lol go do one

as if i'd pm anyone. I'd respond when people ask.

Abusing a mod as well.... Wink
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« Reply #44 on: April 22, 2011, 11:25:50 AM »

Greekstein keeps pm'ing me about rb, as the mods can't read PMs could you take my word for it and give him a 28 day ban.

Ever since he quit work he has been an absolute pain!!

Do we have someone to second this?

lol go do one

as if i'd pm anyone. I'd respond when people ask.

PM pls
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