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[outragous76]

Tighty/mods

(can't quote on phone), but in respect to tightys long explanation!

I have been a very active member here for 2 1/2 years and had no idea of your "rules". I am not having a pop, but it quite simply has to be the least enforced rule on here! In particular with the pm me for rake back rule, I see this all the time and certainly didn't know it was against the rules! There has been no mention of this before!

Without wanting to be too pointed, poker encore have been mentioned more on this site in 12 months than any other. I see this as very positive for them, and think it shows their hard work and dedication to marketing. I have never once thought it detracted from blondes sponsors, and just absorbed the info as someone with an interest in poker! But it is fair to say this clouds your "rules". Infact it kind of makes an interesting question of what can and cannot be posted on the Internet poker boards, for example, when MC posts about poker stars updates etc!

I think this rule needs alot of work, as it is clearly the cause of some confusion.

Please note this post has nothing to do with pleno, I don't know him!

[TightEnd]

Yup, we've had a lot of discussions with Poker Encore too, relations are good.

It's a challenge. On the one hand we have an open forum, one of the biggest and busiest around in a European context and it would be a far worse forum, imo, if members could not post about a Stars reload bonus or a scoop series etc etc. That's interesting information for the members and has to continue.

On the other hand we have a sponsorship arrangement without which many aspects of the forum would not be able to continue, if not the whole forum

What we try to draw the line at is members overtly seeking to spam members or tout for business without the forum that they use for doing that seeing any benefit from that

Is it enforced as well as it should? probably not. Why? time and resources.

If in doubt, members should ask the mods for guidance. We're far more likely to look favourably on something that appears on the forum if a view or permission has been sought first, rather than someone sticking a link up that promotes$ their own personal arrangement with a n other online poker room

[GreekStein]

would you like me to remove my sig tighty?

[Boba Fett]

Tighty/mods

(can't quote on phone), but in respect to tightys long explanation!

I have been a very active member here for 2 1/2 years and had no idea of your "rules". I am not having a pop, but it quite simply has to be the least enforced rule on here! In particular with the pm me for rake back rule, I see this all the time and certainly didn't know it was against the rules! There has been no mention of this before!

Without wanting to be too pointed, poker encore have been mentioned more on this site in 12 months than any other. I see this as very positive for them, and think it shows their hard work and dedication to marketing. I have never once thought it detracted from blondes sponsors, and just absorbed the info as someone with an interest in poker! But it is fair to say this clouds your "rules". Infact it kind of makes an interesting question of what can and cannot be posted on the Internet poker boards, for example, when MC posts about poker stars updates etc!

I think this rule needs alot of work, as it is clearly the cause of some confusion.

Please note this post has nothing to do with pleno, I don't know him!

I agree, most in thread/pm advertising is done to help poker players with poker which Im sure is supposed to be a major function of the forum in the first place.  Links etc in sigs or talking about it in posts are nowhere near as visible as a big blue banner on every page so I dont think it detracts from the main sponsors at all.

As for Pleno, I doubt he is getting rich from this, seems genuinely like he just wants to help out people on the forum.

[SuuPRlim]

is me having a link to the firm in my sig against the rules?

If it wasn't for the fact that I am developing a partnership with Aaron and Mark for some live updates, yes. For example they are doing stuff with us for GUKPT Walsall which will enable a GUKPT Walsall update to appear on blonde.

Not a criticism of you, per se, but the many members who put other poker concerns in their sig lines without asking blonde first is a bit cheeky really (at best) and rude (at worst)

That said, its the case I think that we haven't made it enough and certainly it will appear inconsistent to a member who is unaware of what relationships are developing behind the secenes. Which is one of Mantis' points.

ok, I did ask Aaron before I put it up. i get the point. ofc id snap take it off if you asked.

[TightEnd]

would you like me to remove my sig tighty?

Preferably.

We did post up Karl's press release announcing your good news as it was "newsworthy" given your presence on here and the many friendships you have on here, only right that people should know and be able to share in your news. You also don't seek to take advantage by promoting Encore on the forum. Of course you would be expected to respond to private queries, 

[outragous76]

So, as a general rule of thumb, we should all be working on the principle that if there is an element of personal gain, it will be frowned upon, whereas as if it is in the wider community spirit then this is acceptable?

Therefore, for example if P Leno started a thread saying he is playign on xyz poker, its good fun, full on donks and he is getting outstanding rb, this would be ok? Providing he didnt keep bumping it himself?

But if he posts on threads continually saying that he can get rb this is unacceptable?

Are the above fair guidelines?

The whole irony here of course is that he is banned for spamming rb deals and our main site sponsor dont do rake back, so there is minimal conflcit at all.

[outragous76]

would you like me to remove my sig tighty?

Preferably.

We did post up Karl's press release announcing your good news as it was "newsworthy" given your presence on here and the many friendships you have on here, only right that people should know and be able to share in your news. You also don't seek to take advantage by promoting Encore on the forum. Of course you would be expected to respond to private queries, 

define that please

[SuuPRlim]

its a case of the commercial aspect of blonde benefiting the users, so if the users are damaging the commercial side without providing a forum wide benefit its going to damage the entire forum.

i sympathize with task of policing it, because most of the infringements are not deliberate i would imagine.

keep up the good work!

[cambridgealex]

As for Pleno, I doubt he is getting rich from this, seems genuinely like he just wants to help out people on the forum.

How can you back him up now, when you're the one that started this thread, basically making fun of his banning ?

GG Pleno, you had another good run.

He was quoted today as saying "i havnt done fk all though"

[Boba Fett]

As for Pleno, I doubt he is getting rich from this, seems genuinely like he just wants to help out people on the forum.

How can you back him up now, when you're the one that started this thread, basically making fun of his banning ?

GG Pleno, you had another good run.

He was quoted today as saying "i havnt done fk all though"

Poking fun at him being banned doesnt mean I agree with it

[TightEnd]

would you like me to remove my sig tighty?

Preferably.

We did post up Karl's press release announcing your good news as it was "newsworthy" given your presence on here and the many friendships you have on here, only right that people should know and be able to share in your news. You also don't seek to take advantage by promoting Encore on the forum. Of course you would be expected to respond to private queries, 

define that please

I am not sure what needs defining?

Cos doesn't post a lot saying "Encore are great, PM me for a good deal etc"

He knows the score, he doesn't try to take advantage

[outragous76]

I guess we differ in our definition of promoting then

its ok, im getting the gist, as I am sure everyone else is

[Girgy85]

It's cos P Leno wasn't in the clique!!

[MANTIS01]

would you like me to remove my sig tighty?

Preferably.

We did post up Karl's press release announcing your good news as it was "newsworthy" given your presence on here and the many friendships you have on here, only right that people should know and be able to share in your news. You also don't seek to take advantage by promoting Encore on the forum. Of course you would be expected to respond to private queries, 

define that please

I am not sure what needs defining?

Cos doesn't post a lot saying "Encore are great, PM me for a good deal etc"

He knows the score, he doesn't try to take advantage

The problem with a grey area like this is that it can be suggested rules are enforced more vigorously for different people. I am not suggesting that is the case btw, but can see why it would be suggested. If the sig of a popular member promoting another site appears mutiple times each day then that is constant endorsement. So the statement that such a member doesn't post a lot saying site x is great is like saying Sebastian Vettel doesn't talk about Red Bull a lot when he's driving around Imola. I can see how the modding task is a rather difficult one here.