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« on: April 24, 2011, 12:31:22 AM »

Was running well but as usual for me get towards the bubble or just after the bubble and it all implodes.
Was prerry confident I was good all the way through
really also looking for advice on playing a stack when I am in the Top 10 and either in that pre bubble or post bubble stage, seems like I can't get that right online, at least live I am say 30% of the time pushing forward for a decent cash (2nd,3rd etc) but nobody seems to folds to shoves online
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PokerStars Game #61225411588: Tournament #417010686, $50+$5 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level IX (200/400) - 2011/04/23 19:23:09 ET
Table '417010686 48' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: RRagazzo (36486 in chips)
Seat 2: Piotrstr (18585 in chips)
Seat 3: APPW (13409 in chips)
Seat 4: yellowman94 (29611 in chips)
Seat 5: Cold_Decz (14389 in chips)
Seat 6: derharse (10976 in chips)
Seat 7: sejo dalcan (12866 in chips)
Seat 8: kvejkr (8393 in chips)
Seat 9: Yves79 (26450 in chips)
RRagazzo: posts the ante 50
Piotrstr: posts the ante 50
APPW: posts the ante 50
yellowman94: posts the ante 50
Cold_Decz: posts the ante 50
derharse: posts the ante 50
sejo dalcan: posts the ante 50
kvejkr: posts the ante 50
Yves79: posts the ante 50
Yves79: posts small blind 200
RRagazzo: posts big blind 400
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to APPW [ ]
Piotrstr: raises 400 to 800
APPW: raises 1600 to 2400
yellowman94: calls 2400
Cold_Decz: folds
derharse: folds
sejo dalcan: folds
kvejkr: folds
Yves79: folds
RRagazzo: folds
Piotrstr: calls 1600
*** FLOP *** [ Ah]
Piotrstr: checks
APPW: bets 10959 and is all-in
yellowman94: calls 10959
Piotrstr: folds
*** TURN *** [ Ah] []
*** RIVER *** [ Ah ] []
*** SHOW DOWN ***
APPW: shows [ ] (a pair of Aces)
yellowman94: shows [ ] (a flush, Ace high)
yellowman94 collected 30168 from pot
APPW finished the tournament in 124th place
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 30168 | Rake 0
Board [ Ah ]
Seat 1: RRagazzo (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: Piotrstr folded on the Flop
Seat 3: APPW showed [ ] and lost with a pair of Aces
Seat 4: yellowman94 showed [ ] and won (30168) with a flush, Ace high
Seat 5: Cold_Decz folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: derharse folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: sejo dalcan folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: kvejkr (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Yves79 (small blind) folded before Flop
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« Reply #1 on: April 24, 2011, 12:36:46 AM »

PokerStars Game #61225342465: Tournament #417010686, $50+$5 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level IX (200/400) - 2011/04/23 19:21:11 ET
Table '417010686 48' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: RRagazzo (36586 in chips)
Seat 3: APPW (31422 in chips)
Seat 4: yellowman94 (29711 in chips)
Seat 5: Cold_Decz (14489 in chips)
Seat 6: derharse (5063 in chips)
Seat 7: sejo dalcan (13166 in chips)
Seat 8: kvejkr (9093 in chips)
Seat 9: Yves79 (13000 in chips)
RRagazzo: posts the ante 50
APPW: posts the ante 50
yellowman94: posts the ante 50
Cold_Decz: posts the ante 50
derharse: posts the ante 50
sejo dalcan: posts the ante 50
kvejkr: posts the ante 50
Yves79: posts the ante 50
sejo dalcan: posts small blind 200
kvejkr: posts big blind 400
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to APPW [ ]
Yves79: raises 450 to 850
RRagazzo: folds
APPW: raises 1950 to 2800
yellowman94: folds
Cold_Decz: folds
derharse: folds
sejo dalcan: folds
kvejkr: folds
Yves79: calls 1950
*** FLOP *** [ ]
Yves79: checks
APPW: bets 28572 and is all-in
Piotrstr is connected
Yves79: calls 10150 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (18422) returned to APPW
*** TURN *** [ ] []
*** RIVER *** [ ] []
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Yves79: shows [ Ah] (a pair of Aces)
APPW: shows [ ] (a pair of Jacks)
Yves79 collected 26900 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 26900 | Rake 0
Board [ ]
Seat 1: RRagazzo folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: APPW showed [ ] and lost with a pair of Jacks
Seat 4: yellowman94 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Cold_Decz folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: derharse (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: sejo dalcan (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: kvejkr (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: Yves79 showed [ Ah] and won (26900) with a pair of Aces
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« Reply #2 on: April 24, 2011, 05:35:10 AM »

hand 1 is unlucky

hand 2 the flop shove is bad, I assume the thought process is "help scary board lets shut it down" but the problem with this is you now influence his range negativley, as in he calls you with the top (hands that are in good shape vs you) and folds the bottom (hands we're in good shape vs) admitedly we make good money whenever he folds (which he will often) but we can rarely get it in crushing once we have over-jammed.

Your 3bets are big also, I think you can make them a bit smaller and show similar profits.

with a big stack near the bubble you wanna be really putting pressure on the "mid" stacks, stack that have like ~25big blinds, someone opens with that stack size on the bubble and you 3bet? what are they going to do? they dont really want to be piling 25big blinds in without a v strong hand and they are a bit to shallow to be peeling profitabley, so a lot of the time you'll find them folding hands much closer to the top of their range
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« Reply #3 on: April 25, 2011, 01:00:49 PM »

Is the 3 bet too big on both hands
Raising by 1100 with the AQ and maybee no raise with the Jacks or just 1700
Action on the flop with Jacks from Hero on that draw heavy board?
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« Reply #4 on: April 25, 2011, 01:06:11 PM »

Is the 3 bet too big on both hands
Raising by 1100 with the AQ and maybee no raise with the Jacks or just 1700
Action on the flop with Jacks from Hero on that draw heavy board?
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yh 3b too big on both

r.e the jacks play OTF

hand 2 the flop shove is bad, I assume the thought process is "help scary board lets shut it down" but the problem with this is you now influence his range negativley, as in he calls you with the top (hands that are in good shape vs you) and folds the bottom (hands we're in good shape vs) admitedly we make good money whenever he folds (which he will often) but we can rarely get it in crushing once we have over-jammed.

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« Reply #5 on: April 25, 2011, 01:08:10 PM »

On the flop
(excuse my ignorance!!)
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« Reply #6 on: April 25, 2011, 02:27:13 PM »

On the flop
(excuse my ignorance!!)

oh man actualy I just seen the stack sizes for the JJ hand, yh very arkward now cos the pot is ~6k with 10k back in stacks, I think id bet ~2.25k or something and snap a jam, problem there is that his range is hilariously strong to call a 3bet off 26big blinds and jam over a flop bet, you'rel literally never in good shape unless he has TT which people will show up with here from time to time. Still pot is too big to bet fold, chk folding is unthinkable so i think id lean towards a small bet which MIGHT encourage slightly lighter jams (if he actually has any hands that he can jam lighter on this flop) maybe he might jam JT or something if you bet small but we're being optimistic now.

I think either not 3betting/3betting much smaller to try induce some sort of preflop spazz out or just jamming preflop might be the better lines - jamming pre makes you're hand look a lot like Ax or 66/77 that stuff like 88-TT + AJ/Kq might flick a call in.

you're line in this hand really does manipulate his range negatively imo and makes the top of his range much easier to play for value and the bottom kinda easy to fold.
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