AK in a cash game (.5/1)

[outragous76]

Villain been sat down 2 orbit - turned 40 into 160 with 2 daft double thrus (99>AA and AQ>AK - neither AIPF)

4 limpers  - he limps button and says something like "oh I like this hand"

We look at Ah playing circa £200 in BB - we make it £11 to go, Villain on button is only caller (I dont think he is calling because he has the button, Im assuming he is bad so far - just has a "pretty hand"


Flop  K

we check, he bets £21 into 26

we?

[cambridgealex]

lead the flop. call now.

[outragous76]

lead the flop. call now.

call now with a plan to?

[millidonk]

lead the flop. call now.

call now with a plan to?

Spike a non club 10 obv.

[outragous76]

lead the flop. call now.

call now with a plan to?

Spike a non club 10 obv.

and now youhave stated the obvious - whats your plan?

because that was where i got to after about 30 seconds

These are the cards I thought I wasnt sure if i wanted to see:

 


and wasnt sure how to proceed for 2 more streets with these cards:

 


but i was happy to see these:

 


so after calling the flop:

it comes any of group 1?

it comes any of group 2?


do we get paid if it comes group 3?

[millidonk]

Ok ok. if we are gonna be like this, i figure a cheap way to find out fo sho is to Click it back, £42 to him then see what he does.  This should give you the answer.  If he flats he most likely has a draw, if it bricks the turn smash it in his face. Calling to check, fold is filth.

IMO a King is probs a good card for you.

[redarmi]

Ok ok. if we are gonna be like this, i figure a cheap way to find out fo sho is to Click it back, £42 to him then see what he does.  This should give you the answer.  If he flats he most likely has a draw, if it bricks the turn smash it in his face. Calling to check, fold is filth.

IMO a King is probs a good card for you.

If we click back to $42 we are giving him odds to call pretty much all of his draws on a draw heavy board andif we reraise bigger we only get called by better.  Also he is very often going to have a decent draw along with a part of this board that, if he is any good (I realise this isn't ourperception at the moment), he will stick in our eye making it hard for us to call.  At the moment we are only beating a couple of his hands and we probably arent that far in front of the rest of them.  Alex's line is probably best although not sure whether I call it off as we are only really beating KT and (semi)bluffs.

[Bully87]

Lead flop.

Now I'd re-pop flop say 50, you've raised pre, keep repping a hand which you have anyway.

Assuming he calls a repop of 50, non club turns, lead out.
Club comes, c/c as he could still be drawing or have worse 1p with fd or sd's
If river is safe, vbet this dude.

[outragous76]

Can't believe the raise suggestions here, we have 1 pr on the wettest board in history

[George2Loose]

Fold then. You should have lead the flop. Checking has made this tricky for OOP

[GreekStein]

Lol why have u checked flop?

[redarmi]

Can't believe the raise suggestions here, we have 1 pr on the wettest board in history

What was your thinking in checking the flop???

[outragous76]

I checked the flop for pot control, as he raises so many of his 2 pair hands and I'm in a sticky spot! I wasn't expecting him to bet quite so big!

But everyone seems to think our AK is huge here, other than his air hands we are never in great shape with this hand. Even if we are ahead, any hand they get it in with is probably favourite to improve!

I'd didn't think I was ahead at the time and really wanted to get to the turn.

For me, raising was insanity
Calling was a fair option but oop I had no idea how I proceed

I folded the hand, I know his holding

For those saying lead, we are lead folding?, lead getting it in?

What hands are we good against?

[outragous76]

Oh, I though it was Obv, but I think we can take him off AK as he raises it pre imo

[cambridgealex]

Lead flop.

Now I'd re-pop flop say 50, you've raised pre, keep repping a hand which you have anyway.

Assuming he calls a repop of 50, non club turns, lead out.
Club comes, c/c as he could still be drawing or have worse 1p with fd or sd's
If river is safe, vbet this dude.

dont do any of this.