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« on: May 05, 2011, 10:32:51 PM »

Playing the Sky Roller

£100 NLFO

Playing 9,000 at 100-200

Nicely above average

30 left, 6 paid

6 handed


UTG limps, 6,000. Quite limpy, weakish player

It's been an aggressive table, and I am out of position to two serial raisers

I find   and limp, part deception but mostly expecting a raise round the back and I'll stick it back up him. I should hate the limp, I do hate the limp but I had a strategy....

The button limps, sigh, he covers me with 11,000 (very non standard, first open limp I've seen in the 4 levels or so)

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UTG leads for 500, I call, button calls

 

UTG leads for 1,500. I call wanting to keep button in, he calls

river  

UTG checks, I check intending to snap off the button, who will bet sensing weakness

He does bet, the button shoves for 8,000 into 6,000

How on earth do I fold here. No timebank, but in the time I have a strong gut feel I think he has the caseNine wanting to get called by the Ace. I call 2-3k say.

Please rip the hand apart and give me a better way of playing every street








 
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« Reply #1 on: May 05, 2011, 10:36:30 PM »

Not sure about the limp pre (with one limper already before you) but as played I don't think you're folding to that shove.
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« Reply #2 on: May 05, 2011, 10:36:36 PM »

No need to be gentle. give it to me. I have no shame in posting a complete butchering
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« Reply #3 on: May 05, 2011, 10:42:20 PM »

Don't mind the limp.

Probably bet/fold or bet/call river. Now it's pretty tough. You're calling for a chop here at best
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« Reply #4 on: May 05, 2011, 10:46:08 PM »

Don't fold at any stage.
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« Reply #5 on: May 05, 2011, 10:47:34 PM »

Don't fold at any stage.

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« Reply #6 on: May 05, 2011, 10:49:23 PM »

Don't fold at any stage.


Villain was "Offshoot". Who I think I know. Browndogg's brother?


I can make a career out of hero folding, sadly
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« Reply #7 on: May 05, 2011, 10:49:58 PM »

Don't fold at any stage.


Villain was "Offshoot". Who I think I know. Browndogg's brother?


I can make a career out of hero folding, sadly

Wish i could
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« Reply #8 on: May 05, 2011, 11:01:49 PM »

Don't fold at any stage.


Villain was "Offshoot". Who I think I know. Browndogg's brother?


I can make a career out of hero folding, sadly

no chirpy is bds bro.

but w/e offshoot is never bluffing ever really so muchos sigh.

Against an uknown villain go with not folding though.
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« Reply #9 on: May 05, 2011, 11:18:04 PM »

i do a call

if hes got the  9 i remind myself to not limp ak 6 handed  valuable lesson imo

for what its worth i think he turns up with a weak ace a lot of time
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« Reply #10 on: May 05, 2011, 11:33:01 PM »

Don't mind the limp.

I disagree.

I hate the limp. I'd rather isolate the fish with this hand than let a small pot go multiway.
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« Reply #11 on: May 05, 2011, 11:35:58 PM »

zeebo innit

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« Reply #12 on: May 05, 2011, 11:38:02 PM »

Don't mind the limp.

I disagree.

I hate the limp. I'd rather isolate the fish with this hand than let a small pot go multiway.

Cossy it's never my default line but my image is probs different to tighty's. Him mixing up his limping range is probably a good idea with monkey's behind him
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« Reply #13 on: May 05, 2011, 11:40:07 PM »

we also start hnad with 45 bbs and no antes.

not sure i like the limp but if you  have a plan i dont hate it

whats the plan if aggro behind raises and utg  re raises?
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« Reply #14 on: May 05, 2011, 11:54:04 PM »

would much prefer to just iso the fish, going multi-way is not ideal, your equity decreases faster the wider the range of hands that enter and as people are getting "valued" in this isnt ideal. Also the "playability" of your hand is far greater if we're heads up vs a weak player.

River is gross, but im pretty sure its a fold given that pretty much no1 has AA/KK and whereas his preflop range includes plenty of viable 9's. 69s/79s/89/9T/j9/Q9s/K9s/A9 I think the amount of times he is just gonna jam an Ace here on like a "freeroll" bluff where he gets 1/2 if u call and 100% if you fold, whereas its true you're winning the pot hardly ever with the 6k, his 6k shove (i assume you only have 6k back?) and you're 6k you're calling 6k to win 3k when you're right such a hig % of the time

it sucks, but not that much
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