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« on: May 08, 2011, 12:18:44 PM »

Cash hand from 1/2 table at dtd last night

This is just a. "how do we get the lot" question, and is it possible OOP

We play 900 villain has 720

We get dealt 22 and raise to 6 from MP - 4 callers (villain on button)

Flop K 2 Q r  (i before mbn/run better/iwwil)

I lead for 15 snap call behind, button makes it £45

READS - button simply never has KK/QQ - and very unlilkely AK, but not excluding this for sure. To be honest, in his value range, i squarely put him of KQ and a tiny bit of AK/AQ

Any merits in 3 betting right here (if so sizing)

I peel  - so pot circa £120

For arguements sake lets say we know the villain has KQ - max value line here? Can we get the lot OOP (without risking missing huge value on the river by checking)

Turn?

River? - (fwiw river doesnt totally brick - was a filling back door diamonds too - but WE arent remotely concermed about it)
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« Reply #1 on: May 08, 2011, 12:21:56 PM »

3bet flop to 130 bet turn jam river
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« Reply #2 on: May 08, 2011, 12:33:23 PM »

3bet flop to 130 bet turn jam river

yup. if u know he has kq, he wont be folding. raise the flop for sure.
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« Reply #3 on: May 08, 2011, 12:38:56 PM »

3bet flop to 130 bet turn jam river

yup. if u know he has kq, he wont be folding. raise the flop for sure.

giving up the strength of our hand at all? Villain is thinking, competant, good.

My image is solid, only been caught bluffing once in a very small pot, only really shown down very strong holdings.
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« Reply #4 on: May 08, 2011, 12:47:02 PM »

3bet flop to 130 bet turn jam river

This sounds good.

I know it seems pedantic, but on the flop I bet £20. The difference isn't only £5, since it has a multiplier effect in the 2 and 3 bets, and future streets. i.e. easier to get the money in.
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« Reply #5 on: May 08, 2011, 01:28:59 PM »

Yeah I think you are right. I am not sure he would have called the river jam.

I played the turn horribly, I wanted to make my line look as bluffy as possible so I check called the turn (£85) but then lead the river (140).

I was happy with 3 streets but knew I hadn't max'd out. Tbf he tank called the river as played, so maybe I did get as much as I was going to. But maybe taking dans line and then betting small on the river would be preferred

Do we think people get 350 bbs in with top 2?
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« Reply #6 on: May 08, 2011, 01:36:41 PM »

Who is the villain guy?
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« Reply #7 on: May 08, 2011, 01:40:44 PM »

Who is the villain guy?

I'm not sure, young (20) Indian guy, big, wore bandana head scarf, and hoody with hood up. Plays alot at the international in London. Didn't know Sunny by name, but knew who he was when shown a pic.
 
That's all I got
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« Reply #8 on: May 08, 2011, 01:48:02 PM »

Who is the villain guy?

I'm not sure, young (20) Indian guy, big, wore bandana head scarf, and hoody with hood up. Plays alot at the international in London. Didn't know Sunny by name, but knew who he was when shown a pic.
 
That's all I got


So racist

They dont all know each other you know!
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« Reply #9 on: May 08, 2011, 01:51:31 PM »

Who is the villain guy?

I'm not sure, young (20) Indian guy, big, wore bandana head scarf, and hoody with hood up. Plays alot at the international in London. Didn't know Sunny by name, but knew who he was when shown a pic.
 
That's all I got


Oh u mean Balbinder. Yeh he's probably folding 2 pair on river

So racist

They dont all know each other you know!
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« Reply #10 on: May 08, 2011, 01:53:03 PM »

Do we think people get 350 bbs in with top 2?

Yeah I think so. People find it tough to fold top 2.

Who is the villain guy?

I'm not sure, young (20) Indian guy, big, wore bandana head scarf, and hoody with hood up. Plays alot at the international in London. Didn't know Sunny by name, but knew who he was when shown a pic.
 
That's all I got


So racist

They dont all know each other you know!


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« Reply #11 on: May 08, 2011, 02:10:32 PM »

Lol @ racist!

So good!

And even better lol @ "they"
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« Reply #12 on: May 08, 2011, 02:15:06 PM »

It was really funny actually, we were all talking about Sunny (sorry mate), but it lead to quite possibly the best 1 liner I have heard in a while.

There was a kid (25 ish) knew Mitch, lives in Northampton, also knew sunny. We were talking about how he is Obv the nicest guy in the world (no need to call Reuters there), but the kid says

"yeah, if Sunny doesn't like you, you really know you are a prick"

Much chortling at that
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« Reply #13 on: May 08, 2011, 02:23:16 PM »

c/r bet jam looks much bluffier than bet c/call bet - dont see how that line can ever be a bluff, unless your trying to make the river look like a "blocker bet" hoping he raises but he's only going to raise a "blocker bet" with air or KT+ so we may as well bet bigger.

If he's good then he's going to decide for himself how bluff heavy ur range is OTF and how likely you are to empty the clip so it willbe that which influences how he plays he bluff catchers more so than anything you do so id just prefer to bomb it and hope to have coolered him a bit or catch him making some bad calls (which we all do) even if he bet calls flop calls turn and folds river uv rolly made more than 3 smaller trickier streets

if you start making your hand look bluffy that always snap sets alarm bells off in my head
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« Reply #14 on: May 08, 2011, 02:39:57 PM »

It was really funny actually, we were all talking about Sunny (sorry mate), but it lead to quite possibly the best 1 liner I have heard in a while.

There was a kid (25 ish) knew Mitch, lives in Northampton, also knew sunny. We were talking about how he is Obv the nicest guy in the world (no need to call Reuters there), but the kid says

"yeah, if Sunny doesn't like you, you really know you are a prick"

Much chortling at that

Lol, I can't think of many people I don't like in the world. There's maybe like one. Two seems too many.
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