KK on an Axx board - cash game

[kinboshi]

Background
1/2 live cash game (at DTD).

Table is currently 7-handed.  There are two very loose and aggressive players (seat 4 and 6), and the rest of the table is fairly ABC-ish, with a fish in seat 2 (me).

The hand
Seat 6 raises to £9, seat 1 calls, and I look down at  on the button.  I raise to £23  and seat 6 and 1 call.  So there's three of us to the flop, and there's £72 in the middle.

Flop:   

(Stacks:  seat 1 = £400, seat 2 = £350, seat 6 = £1,200)

Seat 6 leads out for £60.

Two scenarios - that I wanted opinion on. 

a) seat 1 calls - what do you do? 
b) seat 1 folds - does this change our action?

[Ironside]

seat 1 doesnt fold then you must
seat 1 folds then shove and wait for the q turn j river

[BulldozerD]

Pre seems a little small

Also I presume you must check first before the guy bets £60?

[kinboshi]

Pre seems a little small

Also I presume you must check first before the guy bets £60?

Sorry, I'm on the button not the BB.

[Cf]

I'd be raising to at least £30 pre.

You say seat 6 is aggressive. This makes it easier to call but he might fire the next 2 streets and you're just guessing. Given you've no draw or way to improve I prob just sigh fold.

[redarmi]

If seat one calls see if your cards can hit the muck before his chips hit the felt.  Prob fld in both cases tbh

[outragous76]

how will they percieve your 3 bet range?

[Whollyflush]

3bet pre is obv too small given stack sizes.I'd make it in the region of  £36

You must have a little more infortmation on the individuals. Ages/Nationalities/attire. Hands that went to showdown?

scenario A= likely a fold
scenario B= depends on more reads

[cambridgealex]

35-40 pre pls. fold now

[GreekStein]

They already know ur range for 3betting pre is incredibly tight so might aswell raise more.

[EvilPie]

40ish pre. Don't give them 25/1 on a set mine unless you're really deep.

As played unless you've got some sick dynamics going on just fold. Y

ou've made a misclick raise and lost £23, don't compound that error by letting A2 get your stack.

[kinboshi]

how will they percieve your 3 bet range?

From late position fairly wide, especially with seat 6 in the hand. He's literally been playing atc, so I've been keen to isolate against him with position, and play flops against him.

Yes, my raise was too small, and I was trying to get seat 6 to re-raise my 'steal' from the button (as he had previously), but should have made it ten pounds more (which he still calls).

[AndrewT]

Entire thread is 'look how I've widened my range and become a crazy LAG' brag post by Kinboshi.

[kinboshi]

Entire thread is 'look how I've widened my range and become a crazy LAG' brag post by Kinboshi.

 



Mangled this hand though, and then there's the hand that immediately followed...

[Matt.NFFC.]

I'd sigh fold while muttering that the feckers are gonna get their hands burnt soon!