Live Cash Game - Cooler or can I play it better?

[strak33]

Read about 2 lines presume someone has done the joke about a £1/£1 game with a $150 buy in?

[strak33]

If he has a flush and you called you could have played it better.

If he has the As and hit then no you couldnt have but ul he got there.

Is this what you wanted to hear?

[cambridgealex]

Folding here would be a huge mistake imo

well if the guy's range is ENTIRELY flushes then calling would technically be a mistake.

obviously no1 ever folds tho.

yeh but its ridiculous to say that his range is entirely flushes. What does he do with middle or bottom set? or AsQx type hands?

Even if somehow he only has a flush here then it's not even that big of a mistake to call anyway.

[cambridgealex]

its 150 to win 205 so you need to be 42% vs his range to call here.

This is given a fishy calling range pre, and just includes flushes and 66/33 and we're 46% here. So throw in any sort of  As type hands and its not even close.

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

  28,710  games     0.001 secs    28,710,000  games/sec

Board:
Dead: 

   equity    win    tie          pots won    pots tied   
Hand 0:    46.604%     46.13%    00.47%             13245          135.00   { QdQh }
Hand 1:    53.396%     52.93%    00.47%             15195          135.00   { 66, 33, AsQs, AsJs, AsTs, As9s, As8s, As7s, As6s, As5s, As4s, As3s, As2s, KsQs, KsJs, KsTs, Ks9s, QsJs, QsTs, Qs9s, Qs8s, JsTs, Js9s, Js8s, Js7s, Ts9s, Ts8s, Ts7s, 9s8s, 9s7s, 9s6s, 8s7s, 8s6s, 8s5s, 7s6s, 7s5s }

[SuuPRlim]

need to take the  combo's out of there


Player,Equity,Wins Hi,Ties Hi
QdQh,                                                        60.3597%,60.1530%,0.4132%
"As*, 33, 66, AsQc, 3s5s+, 3s4s+, K[7+]:ss",   39.6403%,39.4337%,0.4132%

Take out 33/66 and leave AsQ*...

Player,Equity,Wins Hi,Ties Hi
QdQh,                                     36.5720%,36.5720%,0.0000%
"AsQc, 3s5s+, 3s4s+, K[7+]:ss",  63.4280%,63.4280%,0.0000%

Take out everything but a flush

Player,Equity,Wins Hi,Ties Hi
QdQh,34.2424%,            34.2424%,0.0000%
"3s5s+, 3s4s+, K[7+]:ss", 65.7576%,65.7576%,0.0000%

[kinboshi]

Read about 2 lines presume someone has done the joke about a £1/£1 game with a $150 buy in?

No, that was probably just a typo.

[cambridgealex]

need to take the  combo's out of there


Player,Equity,Wins Hi,Ties Hi
QdQh,                                                        60.3597%,60.1530%,0.4132%
"As*, 33, 66, AsQc, 3s5s+, 3s4s+, K[7+]:ss",   39.6403%,39.4337%,0.4132%

Take out 33/66 and leave AsQ*...

Player,Equity,Wins Hi,Ties Hi
QdQh,                                     36.5720%,36.5720%,0.0000%
"AsQc, 3s5s+, 3s4s+, K[7+]:ss",  63.4280%,63.4280%,0.0000%

Take out everything but a flush

Player,Equity,Wins Hi,Ties Hi
QdQh,34.2424%,            34.2424%,0.0000%
"3s5s+, 3s4s+, K[7+]:ss", 65.7576%,65.7576%,0.0000%

damn it. that was my first time using pokerstove, i only just downloaded it so just getting to grips with it...

[smashedagain]

damm, we've lost alex to the dark side. well you can have him dave. i can rescue him once he turns 40 and wants to learn.
 

hey dave when do you set off for vegas.
sorry for wanking it into kimber. has he got something to do with the Firm... i heard they lost the only player worth wanking over. besides holden of course  

[muckthenuts]

Don't know what there was to think about in those 3 seconds you took before calling

[outragous76]

Just to bring the thread back on track

OP - im pretty sure you know that this is just fairly cold, and you just wanted to check, which is fine - but if thats the case just post it up and check  - no need for paragraphs

I think we should draw an end to the flaming (of which I partook) as we dont want new people not to post

(OP - i think you go the brunt of many 50p threads posted of late - UL)

[smashedagain]

Just to bring the thread back on track

OP - im pretty sure you know that this is just fairly cold, and you just wanted to check, which is fine - but if thats the case just post it up and check  - no need for paragraphs

I think we should draw an end to the flaming (of which I partook) as we dont want new people not to post

(OP - i think you go the brunt of many 50p threads posted of late - UL)

i prefer the paragraphs and descriptions and think its much better than the stars/tilt hands guy? not sure he got flamed and rod has 500+ posts so aint a newbie

[outragous76]

Just to bring the thread back on track

OP - im pretty sure you know that this is just fairly cold, and you just wanted to check, which is fine - but if thats the case just post it up and check  - no need for paragraphs

I think we should draw an end to the flaming (of which I partook) as we dont want new people not to post

(OP - i think you go the brunt of many 50p threads posted of late - UL)

i prefer the paragraphs and descriptions and think its much better than the stars/tilt hands guy? not sure he got flamed and rod has 500+ posts so aint a newbie

sigh

I didnt say he was a newb - said didnt want people not to post

paragraphs are fine on hands that warrant it - this didnt

he got flamed

[smashedagain]

Just to bring the thread back on track

OP - im pretty sure you know that this is just fairly cold, and you just wanted to check, which is fine - but if thats the case just post it up and check  - no need for paragraphs

I think we should draw an end to the flaming (of which I partook) as we dont want new people not to post

(OP - i think you go the brunt of many 50p threads posted of late - UL)

i prefer the paragraphs and descriptions and think its much better than the stars/tilt hands guy? not sure he got flamed and rod has 500+ posts so aint a newbie

sigh

I didnt say he was a newb - said didnt want people not to post

paragraphs are fine on hands that warrant it - this didnt

he got flamed

lol ok. i'm still new to flaming trolling etc.

[Rod]

Not to worried about getting flamed (I sort of expected to get told off for ROT, but I was not 100% sure thats what it was), the advice on the thread makes sense. So I probably was being results oriented but did convince myself I might have made a bad call. He had -9s and the board was not kind enough to pair for me.

I can see that if I can narrow his range to being just a flash the call is marginal at best but I don't believe I am a good enough player to do this tbh and would be leveling myself all over the place, so probably best not worry about it. Most of the people posting on this thread would have called and they are better players than me :-)

Thanks for the advice guy's especially Alex and SuuPRlim for highlighting the hand ranges.

[SuuPRlim]

Not to worried about getting flamed (I sort of expected to get told off for ROT, but I was not 100% sure thats what it was), the advice on the thread makes sense. So I probably was being results oriented but did convince myself I might have made a bad call. He had -9s and the board was not kind enough to pair for me.

I can see that if I can narrow his range to being just a flash the call is marginal at best but I don't believe I am a good enough player to do this tbh and would be leveling myself all over the place, so probably best not worry about it. Most of the people posting on this thread would have called and they are better players than me :-)

Thanks for the advice guy's especially Alex and SuuPRlim for highlighting the hand ranges.

NP

Alex, get rid of poker stove and get odds oracle it is a billion times better. Same for everyone !

Jason dont apologise for what you said to Kimber to me I dont know jeff very well or have anything to do with him or care if he gets offened lol im sure he is more than capable of standing up for himself, and he isnt related to the firm afaik. lol @ worth wanking over you're a horrible man - Welcome to the dark side Alex where we make desicions based on actual facts as opposed to blind guessing and not even knowing how to process the information we've guessed