2nd pair and OESD on flop

[david3103]

Villain is playing 48/17/0/60 and has shoved post flop a couple of times before...

We're 3 of 18 from 52 runners in a $1200gtd $12rb

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NL Holdem $400(BB) Pacific Game#285859715

tildakos5 ($14,560)
morty54 ($14,860)
uglubutfunny ($11,090)
ritch69. ($11,255)
pokerpops ($26,695)
thenstar ($26,293)
xbabe35x ($9,774)

uglubutfunny antes $40
pokerpops antes $40
thenstar antes $40
tildakos5 antes $40
xbabe35x antes $40
morty54 antes $40
ritch69. antes $40
tildakos5 posts (SB) $200
morty54 posts (BB) $400

Dealt to pokerpops    
fold, fold,
pokerpops raises to $800
thenstar calls $800
xbabe35x calls $800
tildakos5 calls $600
morty54 calls $400
FLOP ($4,280)      
tildakos5 bets $13,720 (AI)
morty54 folds

[SuuPRlim]

iv not run the number but pretty sure this should be folded, I think we have to wieght his range hevily in the direction of 89 type hands or one over NFD's to show a profit here, every T* and  we give his range the more under it we get i reckon

[Rupert]

absolutely trivial fold

[WotRTheChances]

Couldnt be more of a fold really. Hands we don't want to see: 9T, TJ, 88, 77, TT. Hands we are flipping with: 2-over + FDs. Hands we beat: 89, (A9 - unlikely). So basically you are in terrible shape... not to mention all the players to act behind.

[cambridgealex]

absolutely trivial fold

this. and only a little thing, but raise more pre probably. its only 200/400 so you're still 60bigs deep and in EP. make it 900-100.

id still fold even if it was the Tspades out there too.