Ivey Sues Tiltware

[ACE2M]

anybody have a link for the nick rainey interview that isn't justintv?

[redarmi]

The tiltware statement is unbelievably aggressive for a statement from a company, this is going to be real messy.

These events are doing online poker as a whole a real body blow, the casual poker player round the world is going to start thinking who the hell can I trust with this ontop of various other scandals.

Absolutely.  I have never seen anything like it from a company.  I cannot help but think that these kind of statements wouldn't be happening if there was much (any?) hope of Tilt becoming a viable business ever again.

[tikay]

The tiltware statement is unbelievably aggressive for a statement from a company, this is going to be real messy.

These events are doing online poker as a whole a real body blow, the casual poker player round the world is going to start thinking who the hell can I trust with this ontop of various other scandals.

Absolutely.  I have never seen anything like it from a company.  I cannot help but think that these kind of statements wouldn't be happening if there was much (any?) hope of Tilt becoming a viable business ever again.

Well it was hardly designed to solve any problems that exist between Mr Ivey & Tilt, was it?!

It reminded me of an e-mail I received recently, purporting to sort something out, which was titled "what's your problem?".....

Genuine popcorn stuff.

[Bongo]

On the other side doesn't it sound like lots of Full Tilt's money is in odd places - leant to allegedly leant to DB and PI.

Are there any solvent poker players?

[FredW]

Those of you moving away from Full Tilt - what other poker sites would you recommend? Is stars going to be reliable or can you see the same thing happening to them?

[redarmi]

On the other side doesn't it sound like lots of Full Tilt's money is in odd places - leant to allegedly leant to DB and PI.

Are there any solvent poker players?

Yeah that definitely struck me as weird.  Why on earth would Ivey have FTP's money???  Only thing I can think is that they fronted him money for tourney buyins that they sponsored but would it really be enough to make a significant dent in the $150m or whatever they owe to US players.

[Marky147]

anybody have a link for the nick rainey interview that isn't justintv?

The Rainey segment starts at 58mins m8

http://www.justin.tv/quadjackslive/b/287114848?

[ACE2M]

anybody have a link for the nick rainey interview that isn't justintv?

The Rainey segment starts at 58mins m8

http://www.justin.tv/quadjackslive/b/287114848?

thanks

[henrik777]

Those of you moving away from Full Tilt - what other poker sites would you recommend? Is stars going to be reliable or can you see the same thing happening to them?

The players money is segregated in a separate bank account at stars. Doesn't mean they can't access it but it does lend a bit of credibility.

Sandy

[Longy]

Those of you moving away from Full Tilt - what other poker sites would you recommend? Is stars going to be reliable or can you see the same thing happening to them?

I am currently and will continue playing on stars, they have proved they can pay in a crisis. I think playing on the big bookmaker websites and sky, bascially companies with a solid base in things apart from a poker would be reasonably safe bets.

If anything this whole episode has taught me is to leave only money you are prepared to lose if the worst comes to the worst. I had a chunk of my networth stuck online when Black Friday hit and it was deffo squeaky bum time getting it off.

[Royal Flush]

Everyone still keep processing cash-outs and getting their money? If so what's the panic?

[toddswain]

Everyone still keep processing cash-outs and getting their money? If so what's the panic?

ive had like 3/4 withdrawls done within 2 days in last 2 month, everything seems fine to me, defs not worrying

[Longy]

Everyone still keep processing cash-outs and getting their money? If so what's the panic?

I know you have a vested interest Flushy and probably know stuff you are not allowed to say but for your average punter there is quite a lot to be worried about imo.

The fact is full tilt remain incapable of paying a large minority of their customer base after 6 weeks when their main competitor did it within 2. We now have 2 people (Ivey and Durrrr) with slices in the company openly stating they aren't happy with what is happening.

Are you still wearing Full tilt patches?

Edit: Minority not majority.

[Bongo]

I withdrew last week and the money is in my account now.

[redarmi]

Everyone still keep processing cash-outs and getting their money? If so what's the panic?

I don't even know where to start with this comment.  Everyone was getting paid before Black Friday but then something major happened to affect FTP's ability to pay out to all of their US customers and they couldn't/wouldn't pay given the rush for payouts.  On Tuesday one of their shareholders and former star pro announced he was suing them followed by an announcement from FTP basically admitting they don't have the funds to pay those players.  Do you not think that may cause a rush on the bank from their RoW players therefore leading to them being unable to meet those withdrawals??  Given your status as a sponsored player with FTP do you not think that it is a bit dangerous to be making these kind of statements or are you privy to information and accounts that you care to share?