1/2 - Jacks oop in a double straddled pot

[cambridgealex]

Villain is a quite solid reg, isn't playing many hands as the table is pretty aggro. It's straddled to £8 and we start the hand with about 400 as does villain.

Villain opens to £31 from UTG+1 I think we were 7handed at this point. Folds to me in the blinds I have  .

We have effectively 50bigs. I think villain has a strong range here. Not sure whether he'd open small pairs, but at a guess I'd say 66+ AJ+ ATss, KQ.

What is should our plan be here? 3b/fold, 3b/call? 3bet size? If we 3bet and he flats, what's our plan on various board textures?

[muckthenuts]

Have you made it £8 or what? Info on any players to act?

[Ironside]

dbl straddle his range should be huge 3 bet call imho make it about 85-95

[cambridgealex]

his range defo isnt huge, and why should it be on a double straddle. (double straddler was peeling/3betting 100% btw).

[StuartHopkin]

No love for just flatting here?

Definately dont like a 3b call, you already say his range is strong for opening, his 4b shove range must have us crushed.

3b fold just seems like were dishin out queer dollars.

I flat, happy i'm in position.

Plus were then happy for double straddler to flat or raise and we can then re-evaluate.

3b size if you did for me would be a hundo.

[EvilPie]

You don't have effectively 50 bigs at all.

Just because it's straddled doesn't mean you're not still playing 1/2.

You say that villain is utg +1. Does this mean he's the cut off?

Assuming the above I just flat it and let Vargas raise from his double straddle. (Assuming it's Vargas from the description).

If opener jams I'll happily fold. Otherwise get it in against straddler.

If straddler doesn't raise then it's a set mine for me. Don't get tempted on an under card board.

[kinboshi]

I'm with Matt, the straddle doesn't make it the BB £8.  You still have 200bbs.

You don't want to be raising and then folding to a 4-bet from the villain, so flat and see what Mitch does from the staddle.  You don't mind playing big against him, but against the villain you're probably just set-mining (I can't think of many boards you're going to be too happy with)?

Is the villain Julian? If it is you have to fold as he only has AA here...

[Ironside]

You said gillian is a solid reg, in that case his range should be huge. If you meant to say villain is a huge rock then your crushed just fold

[TheFallen]

You said gillian is a solid reg, in that case his range should be huge. If you meant to say villain is a huge rock then your crushed just fold

disagree.

flat seems best given your image. There may be more merit to raising if this was someone like Mitch or Tom but a raise here will kinda turn your hand face up and give villain the chance to play perfectly against you.

In a marginal spot vs UTG opener but having the 100% VPIP double straddler in there should sway the decision.

(this clearly is nearer to being 50bb effective stacks than 200bb, peoples ranges will however stay a lot tighter than a straight up 50bb game for various reasons)

[cambridgealex]

I'm with Matt, the straddle doesn't make it the BB £8.  You still have 200bbs.

eh? of course we don't have 200bbs, we have 50.

I flat, happy i'm in position.

Plus were then happy for double straddler to flat or raise and we can then re-evaluate.

We're in the blinds, didn't really fancy being oop in a 3/4way pot with jacks and a stp ratio of like 3/4, but maybe this is better than the other options. 

flat seems best given your image. There may be more merit to raising if this was someone like Mitch or Tom but a raise here will kinda turn your hand face up and give villain the chance to play perfectly against you.

I had been pretty active on this table you may be surprised to know Ged. I had 3b this particular person a few times which leant me towards a 3b in this case as well.

[StuartHopkin]

I'm with Matt, the straddle doesn't make it the BB £8.  You still have 200bbs.

eh? of course we don't have 200bbs, we have 50.

I flat, happy i'm in position.

Plus were then happy for double straddler to flat or raise and we can then re-evaluate.

We're in the blinds, didn't really fancy being oop in a 3/4way pot with jacks and a stp ratio of like 3/4, but maybe this is better than the other options. 

flat seems best given your image. There may be more merit to raising if this was someone like Mitch or Tom but a raise here will kinda turn your hand face up and give villain the chance to play perfectly against you.

I had been pretty active on this table you may be surprised to know Ged. I had 3b this particular person a few times which leant me towards a 3b in this case as well.

Some pretty important additional info in here!

Still think flat>3b/fold>3b/call>open fold

Youve already 3b the guy a few times, is he capable of going nuts?

Surely he is only shoving 4b shoving AK+ QQ+ ?

If we he flats our 3b its gonna be a hard hand to play OOP.

[cambridgealex]

not really close to going nuts at all to be fair. and yes only 4b jamming QQ/AK+. Probably. I dunno what he does with TT or AQss.  I did say in OP that I was in the blinds. but yeh missed out our history

[StuartHopkin]

not really close to going nuts at all to be fair. and yes only 4b jamming QQ/AK+. Probably. I dunno what he does with TT or AQss.  I did say in OP that I was in the blinds. but yeh missed out our history

So you did. My bad.

[EvilPie]

I'm with Matt, the straddle doesn't make it the BB £8.  You still have 200bbs.

eh? of course we don't have 200bbs, we have 50.

In that case either pull up at least another £400 or ask to be dealt out of all straddled pots.

Playing with 50bbs is terrible.

[GreekStein]

3b fold just seems like were dishin out queer dollars.

This is Stu Hopkin at his very best.

ROFL