In words of almost one syllable.
Seperate out the on felt achievements from the UB stuff
You don't need to support or like the man to realise his poker achievements are legendary.
Hasn't won a 10k major since 1987.
Still, the fact he can get you to believe he's one of the best is something I have to respect.
Sigh. Stop twisting my words, I said legendary not currently one of the best
11 bracelets, countless other stuff, huge profile helped spead poker's popularity.
there wouldn't have been so many 10k majors since 1987 without him
Sigh that I have to put the other side, but you are so myopic!
Moneymaker was the reason poker boomed. Hellmuth keeps us interested but he isn't responsible for making thousands of people play.
Aside from the bracelets, what is this countless other stuff you speak of?
Lol @ comparing hellmuth with sebok etc.
Hellmuth signed with ub long before the cheating came out. As far as he knew he was representing an honourable site. What did you want him to do? He kept quiet about it, stayed out of the way and left when his contract was up.
Which is surely even worse? We're talking about the industries most-talked about professional here. If he would rather help UB sweep it all under the carpet in order to carry on getting his paycheck what hope did the rest have?
He had a duty to his fellow professional's to help out and he didn't.
I respect him for the following for sure:
Phil I genuinely believe is a good guy who's had great sense to market himself amazingly well and make a lot of money and at the same time add to the attention of the game.
The fact he's managed to convince people he's the best despite not having the results to back that claim up is incredible. More so is the fact he can be associated with a company that stole from its customers and still have a clean reputation amongst so many of you is amazing.
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